X Marks the Scot - An on-line community of kilt wearers.

   X Marks Partners - (Go to the Partners Dedicated Forums )
USA Kilts website Celtic Croft website Celtic Corner website Houston Kiltmakers

User Tag List

Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: Kilt Aprons.

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Join Date
    14th September 04
    Location
    London England
    Posts
    481
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Kilt Aprons.

    There have been various posts on this subject, some suggesting that they merely covered the front of the kilt.

    I think that I havementioned that there would have been all sorts of variations in use, something I still stand by.

    However I'm reading a book about the 9th Glasgow Highland Bn [HLI] in WW1: and quite clearly they show pictures of the apron going right round the kilt-so the back as well as the front is covered.

    James

  2. #2
    Kilted KT is offline Membership Revoked for repeated rule violations.
    Join Date
    4th March 06
    Location
    A long time ago in a kilt far, far away
    Posts
    3,129
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    any way you can find a few pics showing such? I've necer seen a kilt apron go all the way around.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    27th January 05
    Location
    Jefferson, Georgia, USA
    Posts
    3,488
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    just to clarify, I think James is refering to a "protective" apron that was sometimes worn over the kilt to keep it from being damaged while working or to camoflage it.

    Sorry if that is understood.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    17th April 06
    Posts
    3,221
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cavscout
    just to clarify, I think James is refering to a "protective" apron that was sometimes worn over the kilt to keep it from being damaged while working or to camoflage it.

    Sorry if that is understood.
    I agree, its an over kilt if you like, to stop the kilt from soiling when in trenches

  5. #5
    Join Date
    5th January 06
    Location
    Manteca, California
    Posts
    1,019
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by James
    There have been various posts on this subject, some suggesting that they merely covered the front of the kilt.

    I think that I havementioned that there would have been all sorts of variations in use, something I still stand by.

    However I'm reading a book about the 9th Glasgow Highland Bn [HLI] in WW1: and quite clearly they show pictures of the apron going right round the kilt-so the back as well as the front is covered.

    James
    Last year I got a simple front-only kilt apron (WWII repro) off eBay. Today there is on eBay an all-around apron (also a reproduction.) http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e7...Files/s185.jpg

    Or, you could just make your own kilt out of unbleached canvas (similar to a UK.) http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e7...les/dr06-1.jpg

    It's a lot simpler to have a knock-around kilt than to cover up all that wool with another layer to hold in the heat!
    "Listen Men.... You are no longer bound down to the unmanly dress of the Lowlander." 1782 Repeal.
    * * * * *
    Lady From Hell vs Neighbor From Hell @ [url]http://way2noisy.blogspot.com[/url]

  6. #6
    macwilkin is offline
    Retired Forum Moderator
    Forum Historian

    Join Date
    22nd June 04
    Posts
    9,938
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    kilt apron...

    I believe that in the South African (Boer) War, the kilt aprons covered the front only, which made the tartan a target for Boer marksmen, so the "all-round" apron was introduced by the First World War.

    I'm in Iowa at the moment, so I don't have access to my library obviously, but Mike Chappell's "Scottish Soldiers of the World Wars" does address the kilt apron. I'll check it when I get back next week.

    Cheers,

    Todd

  7. #7
    An t-Ileach's Avatar
    An t-Ileach is offline Oops, it seems this member needs to update their email address
    Join Date
    28th June 05
    Location
    Preas a'Chiobair/Shepherd's Bush, Lunnainn/London RA/UK
    Posts
    468
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Jerry Lee at What Price Glory does reproduction WWI British Army kilt aprons (based on a 1917 style) - he also offers Canadian ones.

    I bought two (British Army style) off him to use as aprons in my workshop. As one would expect, the tops come up to the ribcage, and so there are three draw-strings, and there's a pocket in the front where the sporran would be (or where one would expect a pocket on an apron).

    The apron is a complete wrap around affair, with a single side opening on the right. It is pleated at the back of the skirt, and flat at the front.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    14th September 04
    Location
    London England
    Posts
    481
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    See 'Come On Highlanders'-by Alec Weir-published by Sutton.

    The apron was for camouflage-it would not protect the kilt in a trench.

    James

  9. #9
    An t-Ileach's Avatar
    An t-Ileach is offline Oops, it seems this member needs to update their email address
    Join Date
    28th June 05
    Location
    Preas a'Chiobair/Shepherd's Bush, Lunnainn/London RA/UK
    Posts
    468
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Here're some pictures of the British Army 1917 pattern Aprons Kilt Khaki Highlanders (reproduction)(that I bought from Maj Jerry Lee of What Price Glory) to illustrate the points that James is making.



    It clearly goes all the way round, lacing up on the right side. The top of the apron is high up on the chest, and the bottom edge is roughly on a level with the selvage edge of the kilt. The front pocket (about where the sporran would be) isn't that clear on the photograph.



    I would imagine that the soldiers would have sewn buttons onto the apron and "acquired" another set of braces (they would be wearing the issued set on the kilt proper). The khaki short coat would be worn over the top, and the webbing personal load carrying equipment would be on top of that.

    My grandfather used to say that in the march up to Passchendaele they would be carrying nearly their own body-weight. When I was in the service we calculated that the WWI infantryman on the line of march would be carrying about 109 lbs: no wonder that if you fell off the duck boarding at Passchendaele, you drowned.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» Log in

User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.0