No more Kilts for me

**Raphael** · 15th August 06, 08:18 AM

I tired a few times, but I have a hard time associating my kilts with working. I have always been associating my kilts with friends, pubs and relaxation time. I noticed that I cannot take my work seriously when I am kilted at the office. I have also turned off the rock music a well. It is a pyshological thing.

I am not trying to tell you that you shouldn't be going to work in a kilt. I am just not as productive when I wearing a kilt.

btw, I work for a HR consulting company and we are very progessive

**bubba** · 15th August 06, 08:32 AM

Raph, you do what works best for you. Personally I don't see wearing kilts as a cause or crusade, it's clothing. On the job you wear whatever clothing is required for safety and/or best job performance. After all, your employer pays you to do a job and giving less than your best for whatever reason just isn't right.

**cessna152towser** · 15th August 06, 08:42 AM

Rob wright wrote:-

That's one of the reasons most of my kilts are family tartans in wool, completely different from thge solid black I wear at work, helps keep the lines between the two clear and sharp.

I'm with Rob on this one - garish red tartan kilt, cream hose and red flashes, evening sporran; polo shirt, to go out on town last night; solid black kilt; black hose with no flashes; plain leather sporran; dress shirt, black tie and Argyle jacket for work today - a totally different look and feel for leisure than for business, the only common denominator being both outfits included a kilt.

**GTRMAN** · 15th August 06, 08:48 AM

I'm happy to have worn kilts to work every day for the past 4+ months!!!

**GTRMAN** · 15th August 06, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Raphael

I tired a few times, but I have a hard time associating my kilts with working. I have always been associating my kilts with friends, pubs and relaxation time. I noticed that I cannot take my work seriously when I am kilted at the office. I have also turned off the rock music a well. It is a pyshological thing.

I am not trying to tell you that you shouldn't be going to work in a kilt. I am just not as productive when I wearing a kilt.

btw, I work for a HR consulting company and we are very progessive

Kilts are clothing to me. It's absolutely THAT simple..

They're not for my friends, familiy, coworkers, or a cause.. They're for ME..

**Colin** · 15th August 06, 09:07 AM

I agree with Bubba. I don't wear kilts to prove a point or to promote someone else's cause. I wear them for heritage sake and because I want to. I get tired of this "but you should wear them everywhere all the time" mentality. The cause mentality is one of the things (among other big issues) that drove alot of people away from Tom's. There is a lot more important issues to me that need to be fought for.

I don't think it is appropriate to call someone's decision on kiltwearing or their preference "stupid". Alot of us have nothing to prove with kiltwearing, and personally, I would rather wear the kilt for a reason and look good rather than to throw something together and wear a kilt just because it's Tuesday. I wear baggy shorts and t-shirts to work somedays and I know I don't represent myself as well in public. When I wear kilts, I want to put that extra effort in, so that I do represent myself, my family, and my heritage well.

Good call Raphael, if it doesn't work for you at work, leave for at home and when you are on "your" time.

**Kilted KT** · 15th August 06, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by pbpersson

On the other hand, for those of us who are fighting "trouser tyranny" the workplace is the front lines.

The dress code clearly states, "women can wear whatever they want, whatever they find most comfortable, and can wear a different style of clothing every day however MEN MUST ALWAYS WEAR UNCOMFORTABLE TROUSERS even if it means they are hot and sweaty and cannot stay awake to perform their work"

I think it's stupid.....but that's just me.

sign me up. I'd like to join the sniper ranks, take out the trousers before they even know what is coming!

**davedove** · 15th August 06, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by pbpersson

On the other hand, for those of us who are fighting "trouser tyranny" the workplace is the front lines.

The dress code clearly states, "women can wear whatever they want, whatever they find most comfortable, and can wear a different style of clothing every day however MEN MUST ALWAYS WEAR UNCOMFORTABLE TROUSERS even if it means they are hot and sweaty and cannot stay awake to perform their work"

I think it's stupid.....but that's just me.

As long as dress codes are applied fairly to all employees, I have no problem with them. In fact, I believe in an employer's right to set whatever dress code they feel is appropriate for their business (again, as long as it's fair).

My own personal view is that men, like women, should be able to wear whatever they want. I am certainly not of the "All men should wear kilts" mentality. I wear a kilt when I want, and many times I do not.

You have to do what's right for you Raphael.

**pbpersson** · 15th August 06, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Colin

I don't think it is appropriate to call someone's decision on kiltwearing or their preference "stupid".

I hope you weren't referring to my use of the word "stupid". I don't think it is stupid if someone feels they are more productive wearing pants. What I think is stupid is the following line of reasoning:

WOMEN: At work you can wear whatever makes you most productive. Dresses, skirts, pants, whatever you want - the choice is yours.

MEN: You can only wear trousers, if you wear anything else you are fired and if you are not productive you are fired.

Right now I am at a job where for the first time in four years I can't wear shorts and I can't stay awake because I find pants so uncomfortable and hot. I should see if I can bring in a fan and put it under my desk and have it blowing on my pants. I know some companies say that is a fire hazard.

On the other hand.....I don't know if I like the idea of kilts for men being reduced to "play clothes" and never being taken seriously either. :confused:

**Colin** · 15th August 06, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by pbpersson

I hope you weren't referring to my use of the word "stupid". I don't think it is stupid if someone feels they are more productive wearing pants. What I think is stupid is the following line of reasoning:

WOMEN: At work you can wear whatever makes you most productive. Dresses, skirts, pants, whatever you want - the choice is yours.

MEN: You can only wear trousers, if you wear anything else you are fired and if you are not productive you are fired.

Right now I am at a job where for the first time in four years I can't wear shorts and I can't stay awake because I find pants so uncomfortable and hot. I should see if I can bring in a fan and put it under my desk and have it blowing on my pants. I know some companies say that is a fire hazard.

On the other hand.....I don't know if I like the idea of kilts for men being reduced to "play clothes" and never being taken seriously either. :confused:

That makes more sense. On the first read thought, it was not clear that you were refering to the policy rather than Raphael's decision or post. I just sticking up for individual thought.

I obviously misread the statement.