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14th September 06, 05:00 PM
#1
I've often wondered what is the root cause of the remarks some people utter. Your friend could simply be a very socially conservative person who believes that everybody and everything belongs in categories and columns and rows. When we break the rules of conformity, we must set in motion a whole array of little emotional responses within other people. Depending on the person, many won't care at all... others may be profoundly affected. Among those many if not most will pass you by with little more than a double take or a sideways glance. A few, like your friend, are more inclined to speak out.
With absolutely no data to back it up, I suspect that the following conditions come into play for those people...
The person will have an underlying tendency to be outspoken anyway,
-He/she is very likely a conformist and,
-believes everyone else should be a conformist and,
-believes it is their place to influence others to their ideals.
He/she may also be emotionally affected with feelings of
-sexual intrigue and/or
-embarrassment and/or
-anger and/or
-levity
from your bold and non-standard attire.
This is something they probably don't understand themselves, but they're making sure you know that they've been affected.
Bottom line... it's ultimately their problem problem to resolve.
blu
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14th September 06, 07:55 PM
#2
A precision here
Good night all,
I was dressed EXACTLY the picture on that link <P>
http://www.iq89.com/fr/moi/kilt.html
It is a Jacobite outfit or not ??????
I will be deeply sorry if I did something wrong :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
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15th September 06, 06:57 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by Blu (Ontario)
With absolutely no data to back it up, I suspect that the following conditions come into play for those people...
The person will have an underlying tendency to be outspoken anyway,
-He/she is very likely a conformist and,
-believes everyone else should be a conformist and,
-believes it is their place to influence others to their ideals.
He/she may also be emotionally affected with feelings of
-sexual intrigue and/or
-embarrassment and/or
-anger and/or
-levity
from your bold and non-standard attire.
You've been watching too many "FBI Profiler" type shows... 
BUT... I think you hit the nail on the head.
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14th September 06, 08:37 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by Hamish
I am afraid that I too have to agree with what Alex says. There is a time and a place for everything, and I don't really see the Jacobite kit as being appropriate for the cinema - no matter how comfortable it might be.
I was thinking that trading the Jacobite shirt for a nice dress shirt with French cuffs/cufflinks would have been far more appropriate.
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14th September 06, 08:41 PM
#5
I didn't see anything horrible inappropriate, if he was dressing a bit on the fancier side. People used to dress up more to go out to such things in the past, no? When I heard Jacobit outfit I was thinking belted plaide, or feilidh beag.
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14th September 06, 09:18 PM
#6
I'll have to retract my previous opinion as well. I was imagining a great kilt with a very distinct doublet (and bonnet). I do though agree with previous opinions that a more modern shirt would have been more appropriate. I think your friend is just one of the many people that try hard not to stand out in the crowd. Of course we wouldn't know much about that feeling here at X marks.
Cheers
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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14th September 06, 01:32 PM
#7
I did not mean to offend anyone here by my post.
I was just giving an analogy to tell of a situation.
I guess I wasn't thinking that I would offend anyone If I did please take this as a heart felt apology.
Last edited by David White; 14th September 06 at 03:10 PM.
Reason: bad wording so sorry
Clan Lamont!
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14th September 06, 01:34 PM
#8
Le premier de tout, bienvenue a le forum, Parpin.
Well, that about shoots the french.
Welcome. No, So far in my short kilt-wearing experience, the only really adverse reaction is from my son, who gets embarassed. I picked him up at school yesterday and had to go inside. The Principal joked "Nice legs! I'm jealous of the kilt!." When my son saw me he hiked the neck of his shirt over his head and walked out to the car. Next time I'll bring him a paper bag.
Monday he was playing with a female friend (10 y/o) and I was kilted. He started going off about it, and she said "Willie, it's not a skirt, it's a kilt. It's men's clothing. What's the big deal!" At that moment I wanted to undergo cryogenic suspension until she grows up and I can marry her. (Sa maman et babelicieuse!!)
Last edited by turpin; 15th September 06 at 08:37 AM.
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14th September 06, 02:30 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by parpin
Hi all ,
...Yesterday night I went with a female friend to a cine conference at a local auditorium with a large audience attending.
I decided to go there kilted in Jacobite outfit because I fell so confortable in it.
My friend looked at me and her reaction was extremly aggressive. To her opinion it was completlely displaced and bad taste to be dressed like that for that type of event. To continue she told me that a Halloween party or a scottish festival would have been more appropriate to wear a kilt...
Parpin,
The thing that strikes me about what you wrote was that you were wearing a "Jacobite Outfit". Not only were you wearing a kilted outfit, but you were wearing period kilted outfit. Now I'm sure the outfit is smashing. But you must admit that it is a bit theatrical and out of context for the evening. My lovely wife made me a wonderful Elizabethan noble's costume that I really like.
But I wouldn't wear it out to the movies. I can imagine several friends who would not be comfortable with me wearing a costume for a normal evening out. One of the things a lot of us here on X Marks the Scot encourage is for kilts to be seen as clothing for the modern world, not costumes. I think you should wear what you like. But I'm not surprised that someone wasn't comfortable going out with someone in a period costume. I think a dress shirt and an argyle jacket would have been more appropriate attire.
Just my opinion.
Respectfully
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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14th September 06, 02:40 PM
#10
Luckily I've been an odd ball all my life, so those that know me and family reacted more like, "what took you so long?" But I'm sorry you had to have such a reaction from a "friend".
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