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25th October 06, 04:43 PM
#11
A sincere (and hopefully not indelicate) question from a straight fellow.....
At affairs such as this is "Bride and Groom" still the proper terminology or are other references used?
Can there be bridesmen and groomsmaids as well?
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25th October 06, 05:57 PM
#12
- The Beertigger
"The only one, since 1969."
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25th October 06, 09:33 PM
#13
Terms for same sex weddings are up in the air. I know, for lack of a better term, I was a brides maid in a dear friends wedding (in fact the only 2 females in the wedding party were the bride and the maid of honor -- as the bride put it "I don't get along with women") We are going with the statement that there are 2 groomsmen, 2 best men, and 2 ring bearers. We are toying with asking the spouces of the best men and the parents of the ring bearers to be ushers and ask our guests "Friend of the groom or friend of the groom?" But i'm not sure everyone will appreciate my sence of humor. There are a number of people coming who I said they want to come who I thought would be upset with the concept, and a bunch who will be shocked when we are all in kilts. So there will be enough 'angst' without my bad jokes all day.
BUT who knows.
Thanks again for all the advice I've gotten.
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27th October 06, 12:12 PM
#14
 Originally Posted by crboltz
Terms for same sex weddings are up in the air. I know, for lack of a better term, I was a brides maid in a dear friends wedding (in fact the only 2 females in the wedding party were the bride and the maid of honor -- as the bride put it "I don't get along with women") We are going with the statement that there are 2 groomsmen, 2 best men, and 2 ring bearers. We are toying with asking the spouces of the best men and the parents of the ring bearers to be ushers and ask our guests "Friend of the groom or friend of the groom?" But i'm not sure everyone will appreciate my sence of humor. There are a number of people coming who I said they want to come who I thought would be upset with the concept, and a bunch who will be shocked when we are all in kilts. So there will be enough 'angst' without my bad jokes all day.
I say go for it. Its a harmless joke, and it is YOUR day (well yours and his lol) not theirs. You don't have to be "Bridezilla" but it is about the two of you.
I have been part of two weddings now where I was not standing on the bride's side because of family memebers not being comfortable with my being a "bridesmaid". And both of them have told me later they regret not doing it the way they wanted in the first place.
So do as you will, if it harm none
After all for the one day at least it really is "All about YOU".
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27th October 06, 12:22 PM
#15
Just because you and your best man don't have a family tartan there's no reason not to wear a tartan kilt - plenty of smart modern tartans with no family or locality connections nowadays - Pride of Scotland or Spirit of Scotland spring immediately to mind. Best of luck!
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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29th October 06, 08:33 AM
#16
Some good news, we discovered that my best man's family does have a tartan, the bad news is my best man says he wouldn't be caught dead in it. (I haven't seen the tartan, but seeing my best mans wardrobe, I shutter to think what is so ugly he wouldn't be seen in it -- JUST KIDDING) We are now leaning to putting the grooms in my finencee's tartan, and the best men in my partner's best man's tartan --- and the ring boys? I don't know yet, one does not have a family tartan (to quote his mother, "I don't think there are scottish jews, chris", his dad actually did some research and came back with "no family tartan that I can find"), and the other is my partners best man's son -- so maybe we will dress the little one's to match the best men.
On the up side I just sewed my first kilt that wasn't a solid color, on the down side, I don't want to do it again -- boy do kilt paterns get more complicated when you have to take the set into account. I got off about an inch and didn't notice until I sewed in the waist, luckily I was smart enough to place the most obvious evidence of messing up on the under apron, but the right hip isn't as nice as I'd like. I also learned -- Flannel, warm, comphy, not fun to sew (but it was on sale so it make a good thing to experiment with!)
Cheers all,
And Thanks again
Chris
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29th October 06, 08:51 AM
#17
 Originally Posted by crboltz
... the bad news is my best man says he wouldn't be caught dead in it. (I haven't seen the tartan, but seeing my best mans wardrobe, I shutter to think what is so ugly he wouldn't be seen in it...
Tell your best man a hearty hello from someone who married into his clan, which I assume must be Mcleod of Lewis ...
Cheers
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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29th October 06, 11:19 AM
#18
I think everyone should wear their own tartan, if availible, otherwise it gets too confusing. Congratulations on the up coming wedding
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29th October 06, 02:50 PM
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Congradulations first.
As a Scottish event planner I have dealt with this problem many times, and even a couple of times with same-sex marriages. My suggestion is this, it is not as important for the look of the wedding that everyone be in the same tartan, however they should be in the same accesories (i.e. thsame jacket, sporran etc,). This lets different families be represented and still provides the conformity that should be present in a wedding party. If you wish however it is acceptable to have the parties in the same tartan as their respective groom.
I don't think you and your partner should be in the same tartan. The two families should be represented. When we have a bride in a dress and a man in a kilt and both have tartans for the family we will have a "Changing of the Tartan" as she comes from her family to his. Tougher to do with a kilt.
You can go with distric or other organisational tartans if someone doesn't have there own.
There are many ways this can be solved but again I will emphasize that the jackets etc, should be the same just as with a tux the grooms party wouldn't wear different ones.
PM me if I can be of any help.
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30th October 06, 01:29 AM
#20
 Originally Posted by crboltz
Terms for same sex weddings are up in the air. I know, for lack of a better term, I was a brides maid in a dear friends wedding (in fact the only 2 females in the wedding party were the bride and the maid of honor -- as the bride put it "I don't get along with women") We are going with the statement that there are 2 groomsmen, 2 best men, and 2 ring bearers. We are toying with asking the spouces of the best men and the parents of the ring bearers to be ushers and ask our guests "Friend of the groom or friend of the groom?" But i'm not sure everyone will appreciate my sence of humor. There are a number of people coming who I said they want to come who I thought would be upset with the concept, and a bunch who will be shocked when we are all in kilts. So there will be enough 'angst' without my bad jokes all day.
BUT who knows.
Thanks again for all the advice I've gotten.
Yes, the terminology poses an interesting challenge. I guess we are fortunate in Norway, where each of the partners traditionally has a "forlover" (sorry, has nothing to do with a stand-in lover) which is a non-gender specific word meaning bridesmaid/best man.
I surprised quite a few at my wedding by having a female "forlover" ! It is certainly not usual, but the term is gender-free, and she is probably the friend who knows me best (naturally, it goes without saying she was not an ex...)
A lot of good advice given, but most importantly: it's your day, and if you want to get married kilted, then the two of you decide what you want, and don't worry about what old auntie Clare has to say
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