historical kilt wearing question...

[MacWage]

Since you asked:
Here is a bit on the history of Welsh tartans.


First,he is reacting to false histories dating the tartans to much further back than they actually go and was in a series on others claiming kiltes MUCH older than they actually were in history.
From Matt's blog, back in Friday, April 15, 2005 on
http://blog.albanach.org/archive/200...r_archive.html

(Article text removed. Without the indentions, it is confusing and may led to misundrstanding what Matt said and what he was addressing.)

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Welcome to the forum!

I just wanted to chime in and echo those who have suggested reading Erskine's book, The Kilt and How to Wear It. It will tell you excatly what you need to know about what was considered proper Highland Dress from the period in question. You can purchase it here:
http://giftshop.scottishtartans.org/books.htm
(About mid-way down the page).

Also, on my blog entree dealing with the history of the Welsh tartans, I'd reccomen you go to the actual article on my web site, which is at:
http://blog.albanach.org/2005/04/welsh-tartans.html

In the version that MacWage posted, part of the text is quoted from the Welsh Tartan Centre's article, and part is my response to it. In my blog entree, the quoted portions are indented, so there is no confusion over who is saying what!

Aye,
Matt

[davedove]

but do kilts keep one warm enough in winter

I have found that the kilt is quite warm in the winter, especially a heavier weight kilt with good hose. The only thing I have noticed was when I was standing still and a breeze was blowing. Then, my knees would get a bit chilly, but that stopped as soon as I started moving.

[bubba]

Whenever I'm asked if I'm cold I usually just point out I'm wearing enough wool to knit a sheep so how could I possibly be cold. The fact is that unless the temps are below 20F with a strong wind I'm just not cold. You just wear a hat, keep the upper body, hands and feet warm and you'll be comfortable.

[PiobBear]

do kilts keep one warm enough in winter...?

Yes (within reason); a heavy weight kilt and a set of proper hose (I've a set of MoD Black Watch diced hose; 3 times as thick as some of my other kilt hose), with a waistcoat, jacket, and heavy wool Inverness coat would be quite enough for a London winter.

Someone asked me that the other day (a frequent question this time of year); I pointed out all the wool I was wrapped up in, and that they were the ones shivering in cotton blue jeans and a sweat shirt.

[MacWage]

A thread on Wales Tartan Centres
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=21769

[ozone]

Welsh Tartans are available! I have the current only Maddux (Madoc) tartan cilt in existance. The cloth came from the welsh tartan center (http://www.welsh-tartan.com/) and I had the cilt made by the celtic craft center in Edinburgh. I did this because I was not aware that the welsh tartan center made cilts at the time. Anyway, just ordered a sash for my wife and it arrived in about 2 weeks and looks great with an embroidered welsh dragon in the bottom corner. I can highly recommend the welsh tartan center for their excellent cloth! Check it out when you get a chance

[tashaar]

I will check out some Welsh tartans for my hubby. It's a little too late for Christmas, but I can still do his birthday.


Now, I have another question. I was wondering about wearing a scarf with a dress kilt outfit. I've seen it two ways, one across the body (not so much with the formal dress outfit) and one where it is attached to the shoulder.

When it is simply attached to the shoulder, what is it called? I've been looking for that picture again and I cannot find it anywhere on the Web.
--Ann (tashaar)

[Ruanaidh]

I will check out some Welsh tartans for my hubby. It's a little too late for Christmas, but I can still do his birthday.


Now, I have another question. I was wondering about wearing a scarf with a dress kilt outfit. I've seen it two ways, one across the body (not so much with the formal dress outfit) and one where it is attached to the shoulder.

When it is simply attached to the shoulder, what is it called? I've been looking for that picture again and I cannot find it anywhere on the Web.
--Ann (tashaar)

You mean something like this? If you click on the Kilt Store logo on the top of this page you'll get a 10% discount on most merchandise.

[McClef]

They are good - got my Roberts Cilt and Dragon belt and Sporran from them with excellent communication and customer service.

Will be getting the St Davids (Wales National tartan cilt) from them in time for St David's Day!