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13th February 07, 02:53 PM
#11
 Originally Posted by McClef
Yes she is Queen of Canada too!
(and quite a few other places like Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland etc etc etc)
Don't forget Australia and New Zealand .
Unfortunately a lot of Canadian people don't even realise that she is infact the Queen of Canada, and still refer to her as "The Queen of England".
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13th February 07, 03:13 PM
#12
I didn't forget SnakeEyes, I was just including all the rest of UK besides dealing with your original point about Canada.
If I remember rightly she doesn't appear on all Canadian banknotes (whereas she does here) but I am amazed that you say some Canadians don't realise her relationship to Canada and I seem to remember she does appear on some banknotes.
Mind you when I was there in 2000 there was a news item about many Canadians not being able to sing O Canada! so you never know!
But the phrase "Queen (or King) of England" does seem a common misconception in some parts of the world. Some talk of England thinking it encompasses all of the UK. Of course it is the most populous and some would say "dominant" country and London is the capital of both England and the United Kingdom as a whole.
She is Queen of an amazing amount of countries and territories, I can't list them all offhand. She is still a figure of importance in those former countries of the British Empire which are now republics as if they are in the Commonwealth she is still, head of that.
And I can't help suspecting that she still has a popularity amongst quite a few denizens of certain rebellious colonies!
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13th February 07, 06:00 PM
#13
 Originally Posted by McClef
If I remember rightly she doesn't appear on all Canadian banknotes (whereas she does here) but I am amazed that you say some Canadians don't realise her relationship to Canada and I seem to remember she does appear on some banknotes.
She's on our $20 bill, and on all of our coins. She also used to be on the $1, $2, and $1000 bills before they stopped making them. Still, a surprising amount of people just don't make the connection.
Speaking of Her Majesty, has anyone seen the movie The Queen yet? I haven't, but I hear good things. I also understand there are some scenes at Balmoral Castle, so I expect there should be some kilts.
P.S. The isssue of some people not knowing the words to O Canada is probably true, but I imagine its mainly because they keep trying to change the words on us!!!
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13th February 07, 06:47 PM
#14
 Originally Posted by McClef
Yes she is Queen of Canada too!
(and quite a few other places like Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland etc etc etc)
We havent given her up either(yet), she's also Queen of Australia.
Al
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13th February 07, 06:56 PM
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I was never more moved by a performance of the household band than the day after Sept 11 when they played "The Star Spangled Banner". I still have it on tape, a good friend was there that morning at Buckingham Palace to video it. He almost did not go because of how he was feeling after all the news from back home. I wrote a letter to the Queen a week or so later to thank her for the gesture. I did not expect to get a reply but about a month later I received a rather formal envelope in the mail from her Personal Secretary thanking me at the behest of Her Majesty, for the kind words. I had the letter and envelope shadowboxed, it sits over my desk on the wall.
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13th February 07, 07:10 PM
#16
 Originally Posted by SnakeEyes
Unfortunately a lot of Canadian people don't even realise that she is in fact the Queen of Canada, and still refer to her as "The Queen of England".
The first toast for every round, or every dram, 'round here is: "To God and Her Majesty", I'll have you know! My mum taught me well.
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13th February 07, 07:19 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by McClef
She is Queen of an amazing amount of countries and territories, I can't list them all offhand. She is still a figure of importance in those former countries of the British Empire which are now republics as if they are in the Commonwealth she is still, head of that.
As the old saying goes, "The sun never sets on the British Empire".
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14th February 07, 03:29 AM
#18
 Originally Posted by SnakeEyes
P.S. The isssue of some people not knowing the words to O Canada is probably true, but I imagine its mainly because they keep trying to change the words on us!!!
I wasn't aware of that although there had been different versions vying for position in the past. Also in Quebec there is a French version where the words are somewhat different.
 Originally Posted by AL-58
We havent given her up either(yet), she's also Queen of Australia.
Al
Indeed not and you even had a referendum about it which decided not to plump for a republic.
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14th February 07, 03:37 AM
#19
 Originally Posted by McClef
I wasn't aware of that although there had been different versions vying for position in the past. Also in Quebec there is a French version where the words are somewhat different.
Some people figured that our anthem wasn't PC enough.The main thing they tried to change was "in all thy sons command", and for some reason "native land" was found offensive by some natives (huh?).
And yes, the french version is somewhat different, it talks about bearing swords and crosses, and how Canada's brow is wreathed in garlands of victory.
Anyways, what were we talking about?
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14th February 07, 03:55 AM
#20
 Originally Posted by McClef
Indeed not and you even had a referendum about it which decided not to plump for a republic. 
It was simply the way the question was asked.
if it was simply asked "should Australia become a republic?" it would have passed without a problem.
Most of us have great respect for the Queen. That doesn't however mean that we want a British Queen or King as our head of state though. It's a figurehead position only and that figurehead might as well be Australian.
Al
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