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11th May 07, 08:26 PM
#11
Very VERY meaningful. I've been sober for some time now. I've never been an AA or any other sort of group member. But, I do fully support "recovery." And, I am very passionate about my poison free life style. This tartan is DEFINITELY on my list. I like the regular myself. Maybe even one of those DC Daglish "custom" weaves in what they call "reproduction?" or what we know as "weathered" would be super me thinks.
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11th May 07, 08:30 PM
#12
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
And, Mods, There are at least five of us on this board who are sober members of Alcoholics Anonymous. Hope you'll let this post stay.
... at least six. ;-) The tartan for Scots who don't drink whisky: I like it!
Ken Sallenger - apprentice kiltmaker, journeyman curmudgeon,
gainfully unemployed systems programmer
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11th May 07, 09:26 PM
#13
As I understand the intent of the tartan designers the tartan is for anyone to wear who is in recovery from an addiction. Since Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob Smith founded AA and the 12 step program they used the Wilson and Smith tartans. But certainly the tartan fits for anyone following the hundred(s) of 12 step recovery programs.
Saved the life of this olde drunk and I'm grateful for that.
Still hung up on the regular or hunting version...time will tell...or one of each!
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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12th May 07, 04:54 AM
#14
Ron:
What do you mean "or one of each"? We all know, laddy, that you'll end up with one of each, when all is said and done. I suppose I shouldn't really talk about "addiction" to kilts in this thread . . . but as addictions go, it's not a bad one.
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12th May 07, 05:14 AM
#15
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
Thanks for this discovery, too - they actually sell the material by the meter, kilts, scarves, shawls, neckties, etc., etc., etc.! (I'm sure you figured that one out, Ron - but it was a huge "aha!" moment for me.)
Don't think I'd buy a kilt from them directly, but with the fabric available in three weights, and the ability to purchase other "stuff" already done? Beauty!
 Originally Posted by Kid Cossack
I suppose I shouldn't really talk about "addiction" to kilts in this thread . . . but as addictions go, it's not a bad one.
You know, I've sometimes wondered (seriously) about trading one addiction for another... Has your use of kilts increased recently? Have your friends talked with you about your kiltedness? We even have a "big book" of kilts - but it's not a recovery tool. Hmmm...
Almost every one of us has some demon(s) we battle daily - for those who don't, congratulations (and watch out - yours may just not yet be identified).
But enough vapid musing. To one and all, peace, strength, serenity, and my hope we'll all be able to muddle through this day's challenges.
Last edited by Fearnest; 12th May 07 at 09:39 PM.
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12th May 07, 06:03 AM
#16
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
As I understand the intent of the tartan designers the tartan is for anyone to wear who is in recovery from an addiction. Since Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob Smith founded AA and the 12 step program they used the Wilson and Smith tartans. But certainly the tartan fits for anyone following the hundred(s) of 12 step recovery programs.
So as I understand it, Ron, most of us X-markers should be included since we are following the 12 step kilt program!
But on a more serious note, thanks for finding that tartan. The love of my life has been free of alcohol now for 3 1/2 years and there isn't a day that goes by that I don't give thanks for the better person she is now.
Brian
In a democracy it's your vote that counts; in feudalism, it's your Count that votes.
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12th May 07, 09:24 AM
#17
Well, my kilt addiction isn't quite as mind altering..does give a euphoric high for sure though...hangover would be when the plastic bill comes....denial works well for me though...just a heavy social kilter with a tendency to shop a lot.
May have to be all three. My lady just stopped by, showed her the three, and she likes the dress recovery tartan the best....
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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16th May 07, 04:22 PM
#18
Thanks for the link, Ron, looks like a nice tartan. Castle Craig is only about forty miles from here and I have heard much of their works. Personally I've never been a member of AA - although I did attend alcohol counselling I found that what ultimately worked for me in quitting alcohol completely was hyphotherapy - it seemed expensive at the time but has since paid for itself many times over in what I've no longer spent on whisky and wine, and the health benefits are worth more than any money can buy. Another benefit I've found is that because it changed my whole thinking on alcohol, I can join an x-marks pub crawl and drink non alcoholic drinks all evening without ever feeling that I'm missing out on something which would give me any pleasure.
I guess for some of us, re-inventing ourselves as (almost) full-time kilt wearers is part of the process of moving on from these dark years of being a slave to the bottle.
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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3rd June 08, 04:49 PM
#19
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
Well, my kilt addiction isn't quite as mind altering..does give a euphoric high for sure though...hangover would be when the plastic bill comes....denial works well for me though...just a heavy social kilter with a tendency to shop a lot.
May have to be all three. My lady just stopped by, showed her the three, and she likes the dress recovery tartan the best....
Ron
I knew that was coming! I actually prefer the dress tartan...quite nice.
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3rd June 08, 04:58 PM
#20
This one just jumped to the #2 spot on my list.
NA helped me get sober, and this month marks 10 years drug free... But more than anything, I'd wear it for my mom, who is slowly but surely losing her battle with the bottle.
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