Kilted at Army Dinning in.

[mexpiper]

Looking Good!

[Kiltman]

Dinning ins are only for military members, dinning outs may include others who are not military. I once was at a dinning in at RAF Upper Heyford in the 1980s, wow do the Brits know how to do it.

[Richland]

Dinning ins are only for military members, dinning outs may include others who are not military. I once was at a dinning in at RAF Upper Heyford in the 1980s, wow do the Brits know how to do it.

We are an unusual sort of organization. In the R&D world there is a mix of civilians and military which make up the team. ours (PM-CIE). Project Manager Clothing, and Individual Equipment, are responsible for equiping the force with all the equipment they wear, uniforms, boots, packs vests, etc.
No weapons, etc. that is someone else.
So that is why you see alot of civilans at our functions. they/we, are part of the organization. But certainly in a true tactical organization, only military members would attend a Dinning in.

My brother was stationed at Upper Heyford in the mid 80's I visited him there. Very nice area. He was the GLO for the A-10 unit there.

[davedove]

If I may ask, what organization do you work for? I work for the Army in the medical R&D arena, although I'm on the support side as an accountant. I work for the US Army Medical Research Acquisition Activity, under the Medical Research and Materiel Command.

[majdan]

I was wondering what AR 670-1 says on the matter. Can I wear my Blue Mess jacket and must I wear the Army Tartan or can I wear amy clan tartan.

[davedove]

I was wondering what AR 670-1 says on the matter. Can I wear my Blue Mess jacket and must I wear the Army Tartan or can I wear amy clan tartan.

Well, according to the regs, if you're wearing the mess jacket, a uniform item, then you must wear the trousers or you're out of uniform. The kilt is not an official uniform item and thus, not allowed. Now, sometimes local commanders have looked the other way and allowed it on a case by case basis. Also, if the individual is in a military pipe band, he might be allowed to wear the kilt.

As a civilian, a person could wear whatever he wanted. However, he could not wear the mess dress jacket with the kilt unless the "distinctive items" were changed, like the US Army buttons, any rank insignia, etc.

I was in the Army, so I have checked this out.

[Richland]

I'm with Dave , kilts are not authorised for Army uniform wear. I have seen it done by some navy folks, not sure of their regs.
you can wear your miniatures with civ attire though.

[majdan]

Thanks Rich and Dave. Kilted Ranger also gave me some advice as well.

Dan

[Richland]

Yes, i did away with the waist coat and wore the belt. It was a little hot in D.C. so the Vest,(waist coat) would be to hot. I felt the belt completed the look. I was thinking how the ensemble, was largly put together from advice solicited from folks here at Xmarks. Color hose, color Flashes, etc. What a great Service. I wonder if such a service exists for men who wear pants?
We are A lucky bunch.

[BEEDEE]

Richland - thanks for this posting. It brought back many happy memories of mess dinners in New Zealand and England when I was in the military.

Brian