Kilt sample Photos

[Casper]

Hey, Mark! I see you now have the Black Stewart... are they 13oz or 16oz?

[Kilted-Marine]

wow---

First NEVER design a webpage at midnight-I have made corrections to the 2 tartans and will reload page later

We have not carried the Irish national because it carries a trademark/copyright which is in place in the USA - at least to our understanding
-as far as the Pride of Scotland there seems to be no trade mark in place - now I will say if we are apprached by a representative of the company and it stands up..we will remove those products..

---SOME LEGAL STUFF---
"Legal Restrictions
Tartan is not protected by statute, even in Scotland. However there are commercial steps that might be taken to protect a given tartan. The design might be copyrighted, though this could be difficult to enforce even within states complying with the Berne Convention. The woven cloth might be registered under the UK Design Act and this can lead to punishing compensation if others manufacture it, within a UK context. Also, the name of the tartan might be trademarked for the tartan product, within relevant national regulations, but then the design itself is not protected with the name."

Now We have run a search on the USPTO (United States Patent & Trademark Office) and there are not trademarks on Pride of Scotland
Also a search of the copyright office shows no copyrights

I have at least 10 books that show tartans by clan and also some corporate tartans-depending on the one you look at- the colors will vary at least to a certain degree and in some cases they may vary greatly- some tartans are older or newer and may not be recognized by the current Clan Chief, Some setts are bigger, some smaller, some colors darker, some stripes wider some thinner

in most cases we try to make sure we are selling a product which is as close to the originally as can be.

By the way-Good Catch Matt

[Kilted-Marine]

The Black Stewar's are coming.right now we have a few fly plaids left but that is it

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Mark,

All I can tell you about the Pride of Scotland tartan is that the notes in the STA file read: "Design owned by MacColl's of Aberdeen. Woven exclusively by Lochcarron of Scotland."

I know Lochcarron used to sell it to all their retailers, but that stopped a couple of years ago. I just last week recieved a phone call from a woman looking for this tartan. She had called Strathmore directly (apparantly they also used to weave it because she her husband's kilt in that tartan, which she was trying to match, had a Strathmore label). Strathmore told her that they could not provide the tartan any longer because it was a proprietary tartan of MacColl's. From what she said, quite a few places she called told her the same thing. I suggested -- big surprise here -- that she call up MacColl's!

Anyway, whether or not their copyright can be effectively enforced in the United States is a different matter than whether they in fact are the owners of that design.

In any case, they are not as likely to bother you about it as they are the manufacturers of that tartan. You don't weave the tartan, you purchase it from another supplier. They are the ones who really need to be on the ball about this.

I know there are a lot of Ebay sellers who also offer this tartan in synthetic material kilts. It's quite a popular design. There may not be anything MacColl's can really do about it. But I bet they aren't thrilled.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Mark,

I also note that the Black Watch tartan you show on this page is correct:
http://www.thefrugalcorner.com/tartans.htm


The one you show on your samples page is in error:
http://www.thefrugalcorner.com/samples.htm

Is the cloth in both these photographs supplied to you by the same source?

[ConfusedPollock]

[B I was wondering if anybody could tell me why my browser refuses to let me see any of the sample pics of the kilts or tartans on Frugal Corner's page. Is a setting wrong on my computer?[/B]

[McMurdo]

[B I was wondering if anybody could tell me why my browser refuses to let me see any of the sample pics of the kilts or tartans on Frugal Corner's page. Is a setting wrong on my computer?[/B]

It took a while for the photos to load on my computer, so you might have to give it more time.

[Abax]

[B I was wondering if anybody could tell me why my browser refuses to let me see any of the sample pics of the kilts or tartans on Frugal Corner's page. Is a setting wrong on my computer?[/b]

It took my high-speed connection a very long time (about 2 minutes) to load the page. I suspect two things: perhaps a slow server and some silly html designed to prevent a user from downloading pictures off the website. I rarely wait two minutes for a page to load. I figure if an online vendor can't get their website together, they might be having other problems too.

My suggestion to Frugal Corner: Remember that if images are visible, they can be downloaded. Do whatever it takes to speed the page load. A faster page will make a much better impression on customers.

Abax

[Kilted-Marine]

I am sitting here laughing...
First we have no codes protecting the pictures...second if you ever want to get an image off the web you can always screen print it and paste it to paint.

The fact is they are large images.....large images take longer to load

the image you used from our site which you must have built a page for-has a 404 error..you need to redo the page or reload it...

could it be your internet connection-is your high speed really high speed, what is your MTU set at, were you also doing other things on your computer, is it a cable connection on a shared segment?

Of course theh connection I have at home is a 10 Meg Cat 5E running down to a load balancing router with 4 Data T1's.....but what do i know about these computer and network thingies

[Kilted-Marine]

Abax..come on-you said "IF THEY CANT GET THEIR WEBSITE TOGETHER THERE MAY BE OTHER PROBLEMS"

Like what, ---What other problems directly relates to a slow website...drunken driving, fraud, civil unrest, rebellion, WHAT

a faster page may make you happy but it also means having smaller pictures, maybe with lower resolution..there is no way around this issues..LARGER files require longer downloads..more 0's and 1's flowing over the copper wiring that runs from our server to you