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30th January 08, 09:34 PM
#11
Welcome from over here in Mesa.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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30th January 08, 10:26 PM
#12
Hello and a warm from chilly Boston, Massachusetts.
Like the others ahead of me, I recommend surfing the advertisers here. After the surfing, Go to the Forums (see little box towards upper left) then check out the forums for comments on each of the brands. There is some alphabet soup to get used to. SWK = Saltwater Kilts, BK = Bear Kilts, FK = Freedom Kilts, UK = Utilikilts, USAK = USA Kilts, SK = Sport Kilt, etc. I wear both Tartan and solid colour kilts everyday around here. I teach 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Grade religious education every Sunday kilted. While around the wee ones, I wear underwear of the same color as the kilt. I am 56 and have been kilted since around 11. The undies are a precaution that has not been needed yet. Sitting, standing, moving around in a kilt takes a little practice. Please wear it in your home to be sure that the modesty stuff has a chance of being sort of natural. The easy part is pleats to the rear, aprons in the front. There are threads here on the wearing of the kilt. The site has a great search engine. The search box is your friend.
Welcome to ye Rabble --- Steve
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31st January 08, 06:40 AM
#13
Thanks guys, you have given me a new look for surfing the net. since I saw the modesty thingy at UK, thought alot of you had problems in the great outdoors, guess I was wrong, but that is why I wrote. Looks like I will be searching for two now, Maclaren plaid and maybe a solid canvas. Unless I am wrong about canvas as better for camping than one of blends. Keep up the suggestions, forgot about the games next month maybe some of us can get together for a cold one !!
MM
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31st January 08, 07:12 AM
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31st January 08, 07:41 AM
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hey guys, checked out Alpha site, can any direct me to see the difference between their knife pleats vs. box? I am clueless, what looks best, or better yet less maintance to stay looking best.
MM
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31st January 08, 08:32 AM
#16
Here's my take on your situation:
1. Acrylic fabric should be avoided, since it will flash into flame and burn furiously...not good around campfires.
2. Cotton canvas (100% cotton) is great for an "outdoor" kilt, will wear like iron, but will wrinkle badly and can be a bear to press after washing.
3. Polyester/cotton fabric is excellent for outdoor wear. Holds pleats pretty well, burns reluctantly, "breathes" enough to keep you from overheating around the waist on hot days, and is washable. Rip-stop polycotton is ideal and can be had in lots of camo patterns as well as solids. Most of my trail kilts are polycotton blends. Poly-viscose has similar properties, but is hard to find in camos and solids and is much more expensive than polycotton.
4. Making your own X-Kilt using Alan H's instructions is not too hard, you get just what you want, can add snaps and d-rings and anything else you desire. Search the DIY thread for the X-Kilt instruction document.
5. When using lightweight material, a knife-pleat is best since it uses more fabric, thus increasing the weight of the pleated section. Box pleats should be reserved for heavy fabric (read wool or wool blend) and/or stiff (read heavy cotton / cotton canvas). In my experience a typical camo or rip-stop polycotton fabric is somewhere in the 9-11 ounce range, and when made into a 5-yard knife pleat is an excellent balance between breathable comfort and fly-up resistance. Modesty shouldn't be an issue with any kilt unless you are prone to walking on your hands.
6. Don't stress too much about your initial choices. You'll want more than one kilt and your later choices will be tempered by your own experiences and requirements.
As always, my opinions are worth just what you've paid for them!
Last edited by Tartan Hiker; 31st January 08 at 11:56 AM.
Kilted Teacher and Wilderness Ranger and proud member of Clan Donald, USA
Happy patron of Jack of the Wood Celtic Pub and Highland Brewery in beautiful, walkable, and very kilt-friendly Asheville, NC.
New home of Sierra Nevada AND New Belgium breweries!
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31st January 08, 08:41 AM
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...from the far nw corner of Washington state!
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31st January 08, 08:41 AM
#18
Right now the box pleated kilts are in the testing phase. I don't know when they plan to start selling them to the general public, but if you contact them directly you could probably get some answers.
this thread has info on one of the box pleat prototypes but I've not seen any reviews of the knife pleated models on xmarks. The only one I know of is here, on kiltsrock.com
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31st January 08, 09:37 AM
#19
Hey MM,
I'm guessing from the get together comment that you're down in the desert.
If that's true you wanna AVOID any loose weave kilts (i.e. inexpensive) or the desert thorns and needles will shred them in short order. Folks who haven't lived/hiked/camped the Sonoran have no clue how lush it is - mostly with sharp pointy things that seem to "jump"...not to mention the burrs and goat's heads looking for a ride.
Still feel bad that I fatted out of a great desert kilt. Steve at Freedom Kilts had some CADPAT fabric that was probably tightly woven enough to cover a boat with and still float. It was a great hiking kilt for the desert and the CADPAT camo even blended well with my high desert foliage. Its now a resident of Scotland, being well cared for by a thinner man - Alex.

I think Steve is out of that fabric. But some of the other military camos he has may be as tightly woven.
And, be SURE to keep the length above your knees, top of the knee. Otherwise when you hike the thing will beat against the back of your knees - no fun after a while, particularly if some sand gets embedded in the fabric of the kilt.
And, be sure to take Bodyglide along, though it does tend to melt down in the holder stick in hot weather.
Just some thoughts.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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31st January 08, 09:46 AM
#20
Try a canvass kilt they wrinkel alot but they will hold up to very hard treatment. http://giftshop.scottishtartans.org/canvas.html
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