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    I understand where you're coming from. It's not my place, but I agree that if one needs a reasons to wear a kilt it will do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ugly Bear View Post
    Eh. Come on, man. It's been 250 years. Let it go. There are plenty of practical reasons to wear the kilt, and this ain't one of them.

    "For that is the mark of the Scots of all classes: that he stands in an attitude
    towards the past unthinkable to Englishmen, and remembers and cherishes the
    memory of his forebears, good or bad; and there burns alive in him a sense of
    identity with the dead even to the twentieth generation."

    - Robert Louis Stevenson, Weir of Hermiston, 1894

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    ...Yet you live in the land of the oppressors. I'm with Ugly Bear on this one. I do, however, appreciate your respect of the kilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccga3359 View Post
    ...Yet you live in the land of the oppressors. I'm with Ugly Bear on this one. I do, however, appreciate your respect of the kilt.
    Even more reason to do so then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roan Carter View Post
    "For that is the mark of the Scots of all classes: that he stands in an attitude
    towards the past unthinkable to Englishmen, and remembers and cherishes the
    memory of his forebears, good or bad; and there burns alive in him a sense of
    identity with the dead even to the twentieth generation."

    - Robert Louis Stevenson, Weir of Hermiston, 1894
    Not only Scots.

    The problems in the Middle East and the Balkans for instance appear to be pretty clear examples of the danger of too much of a focus on History as a basis for current behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry124 View Post
    Not only Scots.

    The problems in the Middle East and the Balkans for instance appear to be pretty clear examples of the danger of too much of a focus on History as a basis for current behavior.
    Larry,

    That's a bit of an unfair comparison, don't you think? I don't see anyone urging others to go out and kill sassenachs.

    I don't wear a kilt to stir up past hatreds, I wear it to honour the memory of my ancestors and their achievements. Yes, I do tease a friend of mine on occasion (A Bruce) about stealing the throne from us, but that's all in good fun, just as my wife's family teases me for being a "Yankee".

    Folks, tolerance is a two-way street. I have no problems with those of you who wear kilts for "comfort" or "freedom", but I would hope the respect would be returned.

    The Lakota have a saying: "a people without history are like the wind in the buffalo grass."

    Todd
    Last edited by macwilkin; 28th June 08 at 03:59 PM.

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    With a rebel yell!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry124 View Post
    Not only Scots.

    The problems in the Middle East and the Balkans for instance appear to be pretty clear examples of the danger of too much of a focus on History as a basis for current behavior.
    I think what you are referring to is not too much of a focus on history as it is a lack of understanding it, or perhaps worse, a manipulation of it to suit one's own ends. Pride in who we are and where we came from should not be confused with belligerence, ethnic cleansing, or any form of hatred toward others who do not share our heritage. It is possible to praise one without insulting another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiltedsawyer View Post
    I think what you are referring to is not too much of a focus on history as it is a lack of understanding it, or perhaps worse, a manipulation of it to suit one's own ends. Pride in who we are and where we came from should not be confused with belligerence, ethnic cleansing, or any form of hatred toward others who do not share our heritage. It is possible to praise one without insulting another.

    Respectfully,
    David
    And recognizing that the people living in England today are not the ones who banned the kilt 250 years ago (they are not the Crusaders, either).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiltedsawyer View Post
    I think what you are referring to is not too much of a focus on history as it is a lack of understanding it, or perhaps worse, a manipulation of it to suit one's own ends. Pride in who we are and where we came from should not be confused with belligerence, ethnic cleansing, or any form of hatred toward others who do not share our heritage. It is possible to praise one without insulting another.

    Respectfully,
    David
    Hear, hear.

    Well said, David.

    T.
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