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27th October 08, 06:20 PM
#11
Readers;
Would someone with more Knowledge, tell me how a laced shirt is connected with the Jacobites of the '45? Laced shirts are a century earlier, and the collar is different, and the cuffs were also tied.
The Shirts of the '45 should be a 4 inch collar, folded, with two collar buttons, and a 13 inch slit to the fore. Narrow cuffs, full bodied, close sleeves. Neckware is another topick of its own.
As my knowledge tells me, these poofy, laced shirts come to us from the Hollywood movies of the 1940's and the sqeaky clean pirates who wore them.
This is the view of
An Historical Tailor Mr.C.Anthony
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28th October 08, 07:11 AM
#12
The style is not at all the right one for an early 18th century shirt.
I am assuming the period 1700 to 1750 - a drop shoulder sleeve should be gathered into the cuff, the body larger and gathered into a yoke.
My book of costume through the ages - Scotland doesn't seem to get much of a look in unfortunately, shows an English style of the gathering of the sleeve cuff a little way up from the edge, so as to make a ruffle. It was done in a similar style in France, and as there are plates of ladies in Edinburgh dressed in the latest French fashions it is probably safe to assume male styles would not be too different in Scotland. French fashions were not seen so much in England until the last quarter of the century.
The middle of the century was very cold, the winter of 1741 was one of the coldest ever recorded, so it would be very unlikely that anyone would be out in only a shirt, without waistcoat, jacket, and top coat or fur lined overcoat
Anne the Pleater
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28th October 08, 09:52 AM
#13
Historical patterns
You might take a look at these patterns, as they are described as based on original finds. Haven't bought one yet, but soon.
https://www.reconstructinghistory.co...&d=35&w=24&r=Y
Cheers
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28th October 08, 11:06 AM
#14
I used to have a black one of those that I picked up at the PX in Ft. Hood. They are a pretty nice shirt and I didn't get any "where's the ren fest" comments.
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3rd November 08, 03:45 PM
#15
What is wrong with the piratical side of things? har har har
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4th November 08, 03:01 PM
#16
Found another shirt pattern . . .
. . . looks pretty good to me. It may not appeal to the authenticy police, but I think it looks close enough.
http://www.esotericcreations.com/ind...ticle=12&mn=ht
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5th November 08, 03:21 AM
#17
I should have known this pattern, bought a jacobite last year for hubby in Edinburgh.
But this is what i made recently for hubby.

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5th November 08, 04:57 AM
#18
 Originally Posted by Lily
I should have known this pattern, bought a jacobite last year for hubby in Edinburgh.
But this is what i made recently for hubby.
Nice looking shirt Lily.
[I][B]Nearly all men can stand adversity. If you really want to test a man’s character,
Give him power.[/B][/I] - [I]Abraham Lincoln[/I]
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7th November 08, 02:42 PM
#19
most pattern companies have there own version of this pattern if you can't get the Burda one
I made ten for Hunting McLeod last year
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/a...pictureid=1154
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