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30th November 08, 09:32 PM
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Ya'll don't forget us when you're royals. Be sure to be graceful and benevolent rulers... perhaps a title of nobility for me?
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1st December 08, 12:04 AM
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based on gilmore logic...we all descend from lucy (and we probably do).
and back to your post, congratulations on your find, it must make you proud. which is what matters. congrats.
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1st December 08, 01:30 AM
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 Originally Posted by hospitaller
based on gilmore logic...we all descend from lucy (and we probably do).
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Yes, if her line did not die out.
As I recall the most recent common female ancestor of all of humanity is estimated to have lived about 80,000 years ago. And the most recent common male ancestor of us all lived about 60,000 years ago. (Or was it 60,000 and 40,000 years?)
I have also read that we are all cousins within approximately the 30th degree. That is, any two individual humans have a common ancestor no more than some 30 generations ago.
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1st December 08, 04:09 AM
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First of all, take everything you find on the LDS site with a huge grain of salt. I think this has been stated a few times in this section of the forum for just this reason. You can pretty much find that you're related to anyone when you check their site.
Secondly, in order to say that it's a legitimate line you have to prove (with proper, authentic documentation; e.g., not Web sources) each and every person in the line from yourself on back. It's a lot of work, but you should do that before you tell too many more people that you're a descendant of Robert Bruce. I've met an awful lot of people at Highland games that claim such a relationship. 
Genealogy is something I did for many years and have given it up, as it's very time consuming and somewhat anti-social. I feel like this section of the forum is drawing me back in. I'm here to talk about kilts, not genealogy, so I'll shut up now and try to stay away from such topics. You can all breath a sigh of relief. 
Scotus
P.S. Did you really not know who Robert Bruce was?
Last edited by Scotus; 1st December 08 at 05:03 AM.
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1st December 08, 05:17 AM
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As Scotus stated above, take anything from Familysearch, or Ancestry with a large grain of salt. As a research genealogist, I have found that Ancestry trees are about 60% wishful dreaming. Use them as a guide and then hit the primary sources. For more insight into the "Royalty" stock, read Gary Boyd Roberts Royalty for Commoners, it is a well documented treatment of the common lines that most Americans share with Charlemagne. He has treated the Robert the Bruce lines in several articles in the New England Historic Genealogical Register, a quarterly publication on documented genealogical research.
Please do not let this dampen your enthusiasm for genealogy. It is an addiction that equals that of kilts, but is more time consuming, and over a more difficult path. Somewhat like my learning the Bagpipes has become.
Slainte
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1st December 08, 06:23 AM
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 Originally Posted by SteveB
As Scotus stated above, take anything from Familysearch, or Ancestry with a large grain of salt. As a research genealogist, I have found that Ancestry trees are about 60% wishful dreaming. Use them as a guide and then hit the primary sources. For more insight into the "Royalty" stock, read Gary Boyd Roberts Royalty for Commoners, it is a well documented treatment of the common lines that most Americans share with Charlemagne. He has treated the Robert the Bruce lines in several articles in the New England Historic Genealogical Register, a quarterly publication on documented genealogical research.
Please do not let this dampen your enthusiasm for genealogy. It is an addiction that equals that of kilts, but is more time consuming, and over a more difficult path. Somewhat like my learning the Bagpipes has become.
Slainte
Always good to research. I'm just curious as to which of my blood lineages I can trace back the furthest. My adopted fathers lineage is pretty well documented tho, so no fun there. (male line back to the french and indian war, france then scotland before that) My main focus, atm, is in figuring out which Noah Downs was my g-g-g grandfather Thomas' father.
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1st December 08, 04:34 PM
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 Originally Posted by Scotus
P.S. Did you really not know who Robert Bruce was?
I really did not know who Robert Bruce was.
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1st December 08, 04:39 PM
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And I know about the documentation bit ...
That's why I would love to hit the lottery and have unlimited money and time on my hands so I could do all the research.
I had been hitting the local courthouses and cemeteries working on the local and more recent items when I could. I need to travel and do more into the surrounding counties, but now I work M-F 8:30-5:00. 
But because of the internet I found a cousin who helped me find the rest of the tree for my Tunning family for which my father's family is a branch and I got stuck on.
Anyone want to sponsor my genealogy trips to Ireland, Scotland, Germany and Norway?
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1st December 08, 08:05 PM
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I think we may be related!!! :-) McElwain's from WVA. Small world, eh?
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