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29th December 08, 07:49 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by hospitaller
but then again, how does the saying goes: "opinions are like ... we all have one" ?
in certain countries, you are allowed to wear your military (or civilian) medals with your civilian clothes.
Bottom line, as always, is simply to be aware that what is dumb to you, is really smart for others, and to each his/her own.
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Ah, but a pipe major's insignia is a trade badge, similar to one for a drummer, pioneer, etc.:
http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-badges/trade3.htm
I can't say I've ever seen anyone wearing one on civilian formal wear, unlike medals and decorations.
regards,
Todd
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29th December 08, 12:38 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by hospitaller
but then again, how does the saying goes: "opinions are like ... we all have one" ?
in certain countries, you are allowed to wear your military (or civilian) medals with your civilian clothes.
Bottom line, as always, is simply to be aware that what is dumb to you, is really smart for others, and to each his/her own.
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...and thank you for your opinion.
Here's how it works (in abbreviated form) in those parts of the world that follow the British model for the wearing of orders, decorations, and medals with civilian attire:
DAY and EVENING DRESS
Neck Badges of Orders
Not more than one neck badge to be worn. Same for evening.
Breast Stars of Orders
One breast star to be worn (only applies to morning dress). One breast star with black tie, and a maximum of four with white tie.
Broad Ribbons of Orders
Broad ribbon (cordon) not worn with day dress or morning dress. In the evening only one broad ribbon (cordon) is worn, but only with white tie.
Decorations and Medals
Full size medals are worn with day dress and morning dress, while only miniature medals are worn with black tie and white tie.
Now those are the rules, and because highland attire has its roots in Scotland, these are the rules most commonly followed when kilted.
You will note that things like badges of rank, chevrons, military trade badges (pipe majors, signalman second class, etc.), colour-sergeant sashes, etc., are not worn with civilian attire. Now someone may think that pasting all of this stuff on their Prince Charlie coatee looks cool, but that doesn't make it so. It makes it doubly "not so" when they wear their Prince Charlie coatee before six o'clock in the evening.
The worst advice that you can give anyone is "do as you please", because it ignores the consequences of that advice. It is a hard, cold, and cruel fact of life that those who "do as they please" are usually the subject of ridicule, if not worse.
So, what's "dumb" to me, is to offer advice to people that will make them look "dumb" to those that know (and respect) the rules.
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29th December 08, 08:23 AM
#3
Well,
Just to clear this up a little bit...I am not thinking of waanting to d othis...I just saw it and had never seen it before, and was curious if anyone else had ever seen it...ok.....
Sanford, I'll need to look at that when I get home..my computer here at work doesn't have the updated flash program on it...and I can't download it...stupid administrators......but I think Gordon Walker WAS the piper I saw.
Chad
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29th December 08, 11:07 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
... Just think of a college marching band in white tie and tails, with their school logo plastered all over it-- the effect would be the same.
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Here's the litmus test: would you wear one on a "Saxon" dinner jacket/tail coat? ...
Don't look at me, I wouldn't dream of doing that. However,I do note that the PC is being compared partly to a tail coat in these two posts. That makes much more sense to me than calling it an Highland tuxedo.
It can be very confusing.
Last edited by McMurdo; 29th December 08 at 11:14 AM.
Reason: fixed quote code
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29th December 08, 11:22 AM
#5
If it was indeed Gordon Walker, which is what I suspect, it looks more like a Mess Jacket than a Prince Charlie. As such I think it is a better look, and more appropriate, than on a Prince Charlie. Thanks Sandford for putting up the link, wonderful piping. As Todd is fond of saying we can disagree without being disagreeable.
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29th December 08, 11:28 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by McMurdo
If it was indeed Gordon Walker, which is what I suspect, it looks more like a Mess Jacket than a Prince Charlie. As such I think it is a better look, and more appropriate, than on a Prince Charlie. Thanks Sandford for putting up the link, wonderful piping. As Todd is fond of saying we can disagree without being disagreeable.
I agree. It's definitely a mess jacket rather than a PC.
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29th December 08, 11:28 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by McMurdo
If it was indeed Gordon Walker, which is what I suspect, it looks more like a Mess Jacket than a Prince Charlie. As such I think it is a better look, and more appropriate, than on a Prince Charlie. Thanks Sandford for putting up the link, wonderful piping. As Todd is fond of saying we can disagree without being disagreeable.
I can't get a good look at the jacket, but it appears he is wearing collar dogs on the lapels, which makes me agree with Glen that this is a mess jacket and not a civilian Prince Charlie.
But, if it is mufti, then I'll be the first one to apologise for saying it is never done.
Todd
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29th December 08, 11:48 AM
#8
Rules or standards - whatever you want to call them apply more to those over the age of 30. Those 30 and younger will always make up new things that are wild and power to them, those lucky b___s! As for me, at 50, I'd look like a jerk if I wore anything outside of the norm or standard.
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29th December 08, 11:49 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by Jack Daw
Rules or standards - whatever you want to call them apply more to those over the age of 30. Those 30 and younger will always make up new things that are wild and power to them, those lucky b___s! As for me, at 50, I'd look like a jerk if I wore anything outside of the norm or standard.
Funny, but I wasn't that way when I was under 30. 
T.
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31st December 08, 10:58 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Funny, but I wasn't that way when I was under 30.
T.
I was always Mr. Button-Down Collar, myself.
Last edited by Jack Daw; 31st December 08 at 02:45 PM.
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