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I have a quite large collection of 19th century and early 20th century photographs of men in Highland Dress and, in looking over them just now, I can only find one showing spats, a fine early image it is:

More common, in early photographs, are ankle boots

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I have been looking regularly for low spats on that auction site, but they are usually in sizes much too small for my size 12 to 13 shoes.
Argyle hose tops are so much less expensive than full hose, so I keep looking....
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28th September 11, 11:42 AM
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Re: Civilian Spats
 Originally Posted by Dale-of-Cedars
I have been looking regularly for low spats on that auction site, but they are usually in sizes much too small for my size 12 to 13 shoes.
Argyle hose tops are so much less expensive than full hose, so I keep looking....
You can puchase brand new, high quality "low spats" at John helmer Haberdasher in Portland Oregon or online at http://www.johnhelmer.com/level.itml/icOid/296 I've made many puchases there over the years and can attest to the quality of their murchandise and level of their customer service. They can be rather spendy though so prepare your self.
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 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Spats (or gaiters as they used to be referred to) were an ordinary item of everyday dress, kilted or otherwise, before WWI (1914-1918). After the war they still remained in vogue, especially among the upper-middle and upper classes. As modes of dress became less formal fewer gentlemen wore gaiters and by the end of WWII (1945) only elderly gentlemen would be seen in gaiters.
Loudon McQueen Douglas in his book, THE KILT (published in 1914), when describing proper day dress, has this to say about gaiters:
"Footwear should consist of thick soled brogues with gaiters to match the stockings."
C.R.MacKinnon of Dunakin, writing in 1960, makes no mention whatsoever of gaiters, which clearly indicates that by that date "spats" were probably relegated to the costume of music hall comedians.
 Originally Posted by OC Richard
I have a quite large collection of 19th century and early 20th century photographs of men in Highland Dress and, in looking over them just now, I can only find one showing spats, a fine early image it is:
<snip>
Thank you both for helping fill in some gaps in the historiography. Strange how spats/gaiters were recommended wear in 1914 but we see so few photos or paintings showing them being worn...
Last edited by CMcG; 15th May 11 at 05:19 AM.
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 Originally Posted by CMcG
Thank you both for helping fill in some gaps in the historiography. Strange how spats/gaiters where recommended wear in 1914 but we see so few photos or paintings showing them being worn...
I opine it is because they served no useful purpose outside fashion conciousness, and are a pain in the neck. Kilted, they aren't going to keep you any warmer, and they aren't going to keep bugs from crawling up your legs.
And they were supposed to match the hose color? I have four different colors of hose already and really want at least two more. I feel like changing hose color gives me freedom to wear for instance the same shirt with maybe four different ties and not look like a rental shop patron. Six pairs of gaiters is not in the budget.
For you guys that are thinking about this, the one thing they are going to do for you is smooth out your foot line, make the shoelaces go away. I am not going to bust anyone's chops for ordering eight pairs in eight different colors. But really, you are going to need more wardrobe space, it is more stuff to keep clean and I don't think you are going to wear them very often.
Tell you what, figure out your favorite look, shirt/tie/kilt/hose/shoes and order one pair of gaiters to match those hose. See how often you really wear those after two years before you order a second pair of gaiters.
Claret might be a good choice. But in my neck of the woods if I show up in a tie, a kilt and claret hose no one is going to comment on claret spats; the few that notice probably won't see the point.
Thirsty Viking, you look great in those. I am not sure how far up the formality scale you could take them, but you look quite at home in them as pictured.
Tobus, I can see the point. You are geared up for more than a day hike and you don't have to worry about thorns, bugs or your socks (or anything else below the knee) while you are wearing those. You might get some bug bites ON your knees, but not through your leggings.
Harry Lauder looks like a million bucks. I notice his gaiters contrast with his hose, and HRH the Duke of Rothesay seems to generally wear his garter ties in the same manner.
I'll wager ten US dollars that if we buy MacMillan of Rathdown a pair of claret spats this month he will find less than five excuses to wear them to official functions in the next two years.
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27th October 11, 10:33 AM
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Re: Civilian Spats
 Originally Posted by CMcG
Sure thing. They are from Earth Island Footwear/Turtle Island Moccasins and are listed as:
"USMC Mess Dress Spats
Cream Bull Hide with Black toes & heels
on Red underlay & piping
with 5 Antler buttons & Gumlite Cushion Soles"
I spent 21 years in the Corps, and I can't say I remember ever seeing these in the uniform shop! 
I checked out the site, and there's some cool shoes there! Pricey, though...
"Far an taine ‘n abhainn, ‘s ann as mò a fuaim."
Where the stream is shallowest, it is noisiest.
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27th October 11, 01:19 PM
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Re: Civilian Spats
 Originally Posted by flyrod6057
I spent 21 years in the Corps, and I can't say I remember ever seeing these in the uniform shop!
I checked out the site, and there's some cool shoes there! Pricey, though...
I agree. As a former Marine NCO, I don't recall ever seeing spats as part of USMC uniform regulations, and I knew the manual inside and out. Perhaps they did exist some time ago, as I am quite sure there have been many MARADMINS (changes) to USMC uniform regs throughout the years.
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I opine it is because they served no useful purpose outside fashion conciousness, and are a pain in the neck. Kilted, they aren't going to keep you any warmer, and they aren't going to keep bugs from crawling up your legs.
I could be wrong, but I would think spats were originally intended to keep the hose from getting wet or snagged when walking through the countryside, since roads were not very well developed in the Highlands back then. Nothing more than a utilitarian function.
As roads and transportation became more modern, the use of spats went away. Some people clung to them out of a sense of tradition, but that eventually waned.
I personally love the look, and don't mind the hassle of lacing up gaiters or leggings. I wish they would come back into style.
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Equine knowledge...
London, in 1890, had approximately 300,000 "working" horses on the streets (10,000+ drawing trams); with each horse dropping between 15 and 35 pounds of manure daily -- roughly 7.5 million pounds -- the streets were something of a mess. Gentlemen would "turn up" their cuffs when traversing the streets on foot, and every doorway was graced with a cast iron "boot scrape"-- often with built in brushes on the sides-- to clean muck off boots.
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16th May 11, 10:05 AM
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 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
Gentlemen would "turn up" their cuffs when traversing the streets on foot, and every doorway was graced with a cast iron "boot scrape"-- often with built in brushes on the sides-- to clean muck off boots.
One of the original boot scrapes at my house (built in 1896) is right next to the front steps. I've got to repair the one that goes by the back entrance.
And of course spats were to keep that muck from the part of the shoes you had to touch with your hands (the laces).
Kenneth Mansfield
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My tartan quilt: Austin, Campbell, Hamilton, MacBean, MacFarlane, MacLean, MacRae, Robertson, Sinclair (and counting)
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