Wednesday Aug. 1, 2012

[Mike_Oettle]

Nowadays I wear the kilt every day. But I will make a point on Wednesday of telling folk why I am wearing it.
Regards,
Mike

[Cygnus]

Even though the Battle of Culloden was in 1746, the actual Proscription against the wearing of tartan, etc. did not go into effect until August 1, 1747 -- which would make this the 265th anniversary.

"That from and after the First Day of August 1747, no man or boy within that part of Great Britain called Scotland, other than such as shall be employed as Officers and Soldiers of His Majesty's Forces, shall on any pretext whatsoever, wear or put on the clothes, commonly called Highland clothes ..."
http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_hi...scription.html

I will (hopefully) wear a kilt that day also...

Rob.

Interesting. I thought they had acted sooner - I suppose that's what I get for looking in Wikipedia instead of one of my actual books...

[tundramanq]

Question - How poor of taste would wearing the Black Watch tartan be on these days? Seems like they were on the side for the proscription ban.... Personally, I am going with the Spirit of Scotland tartan and my Sgian Dubh !

Please keep to the original question. This subject can get very easily into politics which is taboo.

[Cygnus]

Question - How poor of taste would wearing the Black Watch tartan be on these days? Seems like they were on the side for the proscription bad.... Personally, I am going with the Spirit of Scotland tartan and my Sgian Dubh !

I suppose wearing the Black Watch tartan could be a celebration of the fact that government troops weren't affected by the Act... but may raise a few eyebrows from those "in the know".

That said, if the only kilt somebody had was a Black Watch kilt, I'd say wear it - better to wear a kilt than not!

[Riverkilt]

Ironic, was August 1st a few years ago that my then employer tired of my wearing kilts for the previous few years and decreed a ban against my wearing kilts at work. He was totally oblivious to the fact that he picked the one day of the year where his ban smarted just a little bit more.

I grieved the decree and won - at least in the sense that he replied, "I don't have time for this you can wear any F**king thing you want." As things happened my division of the agency was closed for lack of funding and I wasn't invited back to the main agency. Went to work with another agency where kilts are not a problem.

Now the man with the no kilts decree wants me back for my expertise in an area he needs well covered. In the interview he made it crystal clear - no kilts. I'm awaiting a formal offer and my sense tells me it will probably arrive tomorrow - August 1st. We'll see.

I can't see myself accepting - not so much because of not being able to wear kilts - but because of the power and control issues behind the decree. It is 2012. Women fought the fight and won back in the 1960s...

And, I'm happy where I am - kilted when I want to be.

Just ironic that my kilting at work issues seem to be centered on August 1st....gotta be a spiritual message there somewhere.

[figheadair]

Even though the Battle of Culloden was in 1746, the actual Proscription against the wearing of tartan, etc. did not go into effect until August 1, 1747 -- which would make this the 265th anniversary.

"That from and after the First Day of August 1747, no man or boy within that part of Great Britain called Scotland, other than such as shall be employed as Officers and Soldiers of His Majesty's Forces, shall on any pretext whatsoever, wear or put on the clothes, commonly called Highland clothes ..."
http://www.scotclans.com/scottish_hi...scription.html

I will (hopefully) wear a kilt that day also...

Rob.

As you quote later, the Act did not ban the wearing of tartan, it banned the wearing of Highland clothes which many have later taken to mean tartan per se but htat wasn't the case.

[tundramanq]

As you quote later, the Act did not ban the wearing of tartan, it banned the wearing of Highland clothes which many have later taken to mean tartan per se but htat wasn't the case.

From the original proscription:
And be it further enacted by the authority aforesaid, That from and after the first day of August, one thousand seven hundred and forty seven, no man or boy, within that part of Great Briton called Scotland, other than shall be employed as officers and soldiers in his Majesty's forces, shall on any pretence whatsoever, wear or put on the clothes commonly called Highland Clothes (that is to say) the plaid, philibeg, or little kilt, trowse, shoulder belts, or any part whatsoever of what peculiarly belongs to the highland garb; and that no tartan, or partly-coloured plaid or stuff shall be used for great coats, or for upper coats; and if any such person shall presume, after the said first day of August, to wear or put on the aforesaid garments or any part of them, every such person so offending, being convicted thereof by the oath of one or more credible witness or witnesses before any court of justiciary, or any one or more justices of the peace for the shire or stewartry, or judge ordinary of the place where such offence shall be committed, shall suffer imprisonment, without bail, during the space of six months, and no longer; and being convicted for a second offence before a court of justiciary or at the circuits, shall be liable to be transported to any of his Majesty's plantations beyond the seas, there to remain for a space of seven years.

[Kilted Cole]

Isn't there a quote or a saying about 12 Highlanders and a Bagpipe make a rebellion or some such thing? If so, then were almost there. lol

[Rob, ClanMacMillan, NM]

As you quote later, the Act did not ban the wearing of tartan, it banned the wearing of Highland clothes which many have later taken to mean tartan per se but htat wasn't the case.

Actually, it was the case. Specifically:

"And be it further enacted by the authority aforesaid, That from and after the first day of August, one thousand seven hundred and forty seven, no man or boy, within that part of Great Briton called Scotland, other than shall be employed as officers and soldiers in his Majesty's forces, shall on any pretence whatsoever, wear or put on the clothes commonly called Highland Clothes (that is to say) the plaid, philibeg, or little kilt, trowse, shoulder belts, or any part whatsoever of what peculiarly belongs to the highland garb; and that no tartan, or partly-coloured plaid or stuff shall be used for great coats, or for upper coats; and if any such person shall presume, after the said first day of August, to wear or put on the aforesaid garments or any part of them, every such person so offending, being convicted thereof by the oath of one or more credible witness or witnesses before any court of justiciary, or any one or more justices of the peace for the shire or stewartry, or judge ordinary of the place where such offence shall be committed, shall suffer imprisonment, without bail, during the space of six months, and no longer; and being convicted for a second offence before a court of justiciary or at the circuits, shall be liable to be transported to any of his Majesty's plantations beyond the seas, there to remain for a space of seven years."
http://dailysirwalter.blogspot.com/2...scription.html

Rob.

P.S. Sorry Chuck - I should read all the posts before responding - lol.

[Tobus]

Note that the portion that banned tartan was only specific to "great coats" or "upper coats". The rest of the Act was for certain types of clothing that is specific to the Highlands, but did not ban tartan itself.

Keep in mind that tartan was worn by Lowlanders as well, and the Act was meant only to punish Highland culture. So it was specific to Highland attire, but was not an across-the-board ban on tartan.