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    Is it proper to fly his standard when he is not actually in attendance? This is not a "loaded question". I do not know the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Thorpe View Post
    Is it proper to fly his standard when he is not actually in attendance? This is not a "loaded question". I do not know the answer.
    No. A pinsel may sometimes be authorized for use when the clan chief is not personally present, but the standard should indicate the presence of the armiger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidlpope View Post
    No. A pinsel may sometimes be authorized for use when the clan chief is not personally present, but the standard should indicate the presence of the armiger.
    Actually...according to the Lyon's website:

    "This is a long, narrow tapering flag, granted by the Lord Lyon only to those who have a "following", such as Clan Chiefs, because it is a 'Headquarters' flag. It is used to mark the assembly point or Headquarters of the Clan or following, and does not necessarily denote the presence of the Standard's owner as the personal banner does."

    So a Lt. or Commissioner representing the Chief and Clan could use it at their tent.. This is not to be confused with a personal banner which (also according to Lyon)

    "This is often wrongly called a "Standard" (see para. 17 below) and is the personal flag of the owner of a coat of arms (an "armiger"). It shows his personal coat of arms granted to him by the Lord Lyon or inherited in right of an ancestor, and protected to him by the Law of Scotland. The coat of arms fills the banner right to its edges, as though it were a rectangular shield. It is quite wrong to use a banner of a plain colour with the owner’s arms on a shield in the middle. This would mean that the owner’s arms were of that colour with a lithe inescutcheon In the centre. Nor should the external "additaments" be shown, ie. helmet, mantling, crest, motto and supporters. Its purpose is the location and identification of its owner, and it Is the visual equivalent of his name. No one else may use it."
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