Time Enough For Love

[KiltedCodeWarrior]

I heard that a movie of Stranger in a Strange Land was under consideration. I think Owen Wilson would be great in the lead, with someone like Sean Connery as Jubal Harshaw.

As I mentioned before, Heinlein is why I always liked kilts.

Time Enough for Love influenced me considerably- it was only fitting that our 5-month old daughter Dora got her name from that book.

Sciuopterus, I would love to see a movie made from this book, but it would almost have to be an epic to truly capture the flavor of the book, although Hollywood would not be concerned with really capturing the flavor as long as it sold lots of tickets. However, I have to disagree about the role of Valentine Michael Smith, I could not imaging Owen Wilson being serious enough to play this role in a movie. The only scene that I could see him as perfect for is the first time Michael laughs for real in the book. I do agree with Sean Connery for Jubal, although he may be too refined. My view of Jubal is somebody who really believes in TANSTAAFL and desn't care what anybody else thinks a la Lazarus Long, who I think would be played perfectly by Sean Connery. For Jubal, I would lean toward, hmmmh, maybe Jack Nicholson, or in a lighter vain a John Goodman. For Michael I would think somebody more "androgynously" beautiful, but still masculine. Say the creature from Rocky Horror (I know, reaching deep into the past), although saying that, I might agree that Owen might have the features to pull this off. Orlando Bloom, as he looked in Lord of the Rings, is another possibility that I like better, and he has that innocence look as well.

Da#$, how in the he#$ did I get off on this tangent!

Later,
RJI

[KiltedCodeWarrior]

Don't forget Stranger in a Strange Land...it taught me to grok individuality.

Bryan...and I read Starship Troopers in junior high-much better than the (crappy) movie...

Bryan, I agree in regards to the movie and its reflection of the real story in the book. However, if you just enjoy it as a movie, it is not bad. A little too gory actually for me, but acceptable as a rental.

The same could be said for the recent Clive Cussler (another of my favorite authors) movie Sahara. It was actually fairly good at depicting some of the major story lines (although Cussler embeds many sub plots) and after seeing it for the second time, I came to like it. While the characters were not as I had envisioned them in my mind while reading his books, when I reflected and reviewed his actual descriptions of the characters personalities, I could live with it! Now their physical apprearance only bore a vague resemblance to the author's description, but that is to be expected. I thought Dirk could have been played perfectly by Hugh Jackman (not to start a war over actor characterizations!)

[macgreggor]

KCW,

As to how movies compare to the way we imagine the books, I am reminded of the old saying 'the pictures are always better on the radio'! There is NOTHING which can compare with our imaginations.

BTW, can anybody tell me who to credit that quote to? Thanks.

macG

[Southern Breeze]

KCW,

As to how movies compare to the way we imagine the books, I am reminded of the old saying 'the pictures are always better on the radio'! There is NOTHING which can compare with our imaginations.

BTW, can anybody tell me who to credit that quote to? Thanks.

macG

How true that is.For some reason seeing the movie after reading the book is always somewhat disappointing.

[RockyR]

Not a Fiction Reader? No Problem. It is like reading the bible.

No way ...

[Jerry]

I read it. I was an avid Heinlen fan as a teen ager and I still am, in my 60s.

[Rigged]

JohnAllen,

The best fiction stories survive over time because they are basic human truths wrapped in superhuman fantasy.

Think of the works of Shakespear and Homer.

Tolkein's "Lord of the Rings" trilogy, Asimov's "Foundation" trilogy, Herbert's "Dune" and its offspring, the works of Heinlein and Bradbury each contain more human truths per page than most of the daily news.

The best science fiction writers take what is known to be true and extrapolate and expand on it, showing us new possibilities that often become the commonplace (television, computers, robotics, cell phones, space travel).

Sometimes good fiction stands as a warning, giving us signposts to ward us away from danger. The novels, Orwell's "1984" and Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451" are two that come to mind.

Change "spice" to "oil" and the "Dune" novels (jihadists seeking to control the universe's most precious resource) become current events. All of the signs of the birth of the Taliban and the rise of Osama bin Laden are in those books.

There's a lot of truth in good fiction. And a lot of fiction being passed off as truth.

If you want pure fiction, watch the Presidential debates.

[The Wizard of BC]

JohnAllen,

If you do not own a copy of either "Stranger in a strange land" "Time enough for love", "I will fear no evil" "The moon is a harsh mistress" or any collection of RAH short stories, I would be honored to loan you a copy. I have multiples of everything Robert A. Heinlein wrote. The autographed copies however are not available. Bob gave me those from his own bookshelf and no one gets near them without gloves.

[KiltedCodeWarrior]

JohnAllen,

If you do not own a copy of either "Stranger in a strange land" "Time enough for love", "I will fear no evil" "The moon is a harsh mistress" or any collection of RAH short stories, I would be honored to loan you a copy. I have multiples of everything Robert A. Heinlein wrote. The autographed copies however are not available. Bob gave me those from his own bookshelf and no one gets near them without gloves.

Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I was searching the forums for something entirely unrelated and the title of this thread caught my eye as I am an avid Heinlein fan and have been since a kid. When I went to open the thread, I was sure it would have nothing to do with Heinlein and I am gratified to find it does!

Steve, you are my new hero! I have been slowly building a collection of the first publication of every story Heinlein ever wrote. Now I find out that you not only make great kilts, but own SIGNED Heinlein's, and apparently new the man! My cup runneth over. Rob running off to look at the Freedom Kilts site again and figure out how to get a kilt made by somebody who knew my idol!

RJI

[An t-Ileach]

I wonder if there is a connection between kilt wearing and being a fan of Heinlein and Pratchett? It seems that quite a significant number of people here are fans of both authors (including me). And it was Heinlein that gave the world "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch" (TANSTAAFL).