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27th March 24, 04:45 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
I mean I can thank you for the advice but I’m personally not interested, at the moment anyway, in wearing it in such a way that will make others question what I have underneath…
I see. Are you concerned that people will ask you, or is it that you are concerned about what they may be thinking even if they don't say it?
Last edited by Mad Dawg; 27th March 24 at 04:46 PM.
Reason: Clarification
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28th March 24, 07:45 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
I mean I can thank you for the advice but I’m personally not interested, at the moment anyway, in wearing it in such a way that will make others question what I have underneath…
Whilst wearing it over your trousers may well avoid making others question what you have underneath, I think doing so will will simply invite more speculation and questions as to why you are wearing a kilt over your trousers in the first place.
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27th March 24, 01:24 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
How do I deal with him? He always makes fun of kilts and always tells me that wearing it over my trousers isn’t “how it’s meant to be worn” I don’t care and I don’t care for his dislike of Scottish culture either, I’d appreciate some words to arm myself with so I can wear my kilt around him.
Are you saying that you wear kilt and trousers at the same time..?
If so, your brother has a strong argument and it would be worth trying to see his point.
Remember that the kilt is a world-renowned garment and has a few conventions regarding its wearing, if you want to avoid looking ridiculous.
There is an abundance of how-to-wear-the-kilt advice out there, and on this forum also, so getting it 'wrong' will be a result of whether you want to follow tried-and-tested conventional ways or not.
To wear the kilt as you would trousers is the advice often given to the novice, so that it is what you are doing, rather than the kilt itself, that governs what you wear with it. Have a look at how the Tartan Army goes a-kilted when Scotland is playing England and you'll get a good idea of how Scots themselves treat the kilt for casual events.
Then again, for a wedding or Burns' night dinner, the same kilt will be 'dressed up' with silver buttoned doublet, diced or tartan hose, bow-tie, etc.
The best advice on how-to with Highand dress was given by Charles MacKinnon of Dunakin in his 1960 book Tartans and Highland Dress. The advice is as good today as it was then, and has been regularly quoted and repeated during the past 60 years.
Second-hand copies are to be found readily and cheaply, and following Mackinnon's guidance would defeat any argument your brother could ever make.
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27th March 24, 10:50 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Troglodyte
Are you saying that you wear kilt and trousers at the same time..?
If so, your brother has a strong argument and it would be worth trying to see his point.
Remember that the kilt is a world-renowned garment and has a few conventions regarding its wearing, if you want to avoid looking ridiculous.
There is an abundance of how-to-wear-the-kilt advice out there, and on this forum also, so getting it 'wrong' will be a result of whether you want to follow tried-and-tested conventional ways or not.
To wear the kilt as you would trousers is the advice often given to the novice, so that it is what you are doing, rather than the kilt itself, that governs what you wear with it. Have a look at how the Tartan Army goes a-kilted when Scotland is playing England and you'll get a good idea of how Scots themselves treat the kilt for casual events.
Then again, for a wedding or Burns' night dinner, the same kilt will be 'dressed up' with silver buttoned doublet, diced or tartan hose, bow-tie, etc.
The best advice on how-to with Highand dress was given by Charles MacKinnon of Dunakin in his 1960 book Tartans and Highland Dress. The advice is as good today as it was then, and has been regularly quoted and repeated during the past 60 years.
Second-hand copies are to be found readily and cheaply, and following Mackinnon's guidance would defeat any argument your brother could ever make.
Thanks for the advice but I know already what should be known about highland wear and the many outfits you can wear a kilt with, honestly can’t wait to play with mine once I get one that fits.
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27th March 24, 11:23 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
He... and always tells me that wearing it over my trousers isn’t “how it’s meant to be worn”
Your brothers feelings toward Scotland aside, he is correct. Kilts are not meant to be worn over trousers.
If you said, "instead of trousers" that would be entirely different. But the context of what I quoted doesn't say that at all.
Tulach Ard
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27th March 24, 01:04 PM
#6
 Originally Posted by MacKenzie
Your brothers feelings toward Scotland aside, he is correct. Kilts are not meant to be worn over trousers.
If you said, "instead of trousers" that would be entirely different. But the context of what I quoted doesn't say that at all.
At the end of the day it’s how I feel comfortable wearing it, take it or leave it, both my older brother and you should understand that, and that dictating what is worn underneath is kilt police behaviour.
I’m interested in becoming a valued member of your community and I do not wish to get into childish arguments about what should be worn under the kilt, but each to their own.
Last edited by AmateurKiltsmen; 27th March 24 at 01:08 PM.
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27th March 24, 01:30 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
...each to their own.
That is all that needs to be said.
While I wouldn't wear a kilt with trousers, I would drink a beer with you in a pub as I wear a kilt myself.
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27th March 24, 01:44 PM
#8
 Originally Posted by Mad Dawg
That is all that needs to be said.
While I wouldn't wear a kilt with trousers, I would drink a beer with you in a pub as I wear a kilt myself.
And as I wear my kilt too, however I decide to wear it.
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27th March 24, 02:02 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
And as I wear my kilt too, however I decide to wear it.
Exactly my point.
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27th March 24, 02:22 PM
#10
 Originally Posted by AmateurKiltsmen
... and that dictating what is worn underneath is kilt police behaviour.
What did I dictate to you?
Tulach Ard
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