Pleating Army tartan to stripe

**ozmeath** · 21st January 07, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by cloves

to the brown might be cool, but it will have diffent colored lines on either side.
TO one side of the brown is green, to the other is very dark, looks almost black. Might look something like this...

the way I pleated it above is a bit different than the way Barb did the MacCallum. I did it to EVERY brown line in the Army tartan so that I ended up with extra stripes of color in between.
I think the MacCallum was to the same white stripe in every repeat? Barb help...my brain is hurting.

That's by far the better option and well done cloves.
I'm not a fan of to the sett with this one Adam, no depth and the yellow contrasts too much. You asked!

**BEEDEE** · 21st January 07, 09:24 AM

PLEAT TO THE VERTICAL YELLOW!!! That's the 'proper' regimantal pleating.

Brian

**Barb T** · 21st January 07, 10:28 AM

Sorry I'm late coming to this thread. I agree completely with Matt and Rocky. It _really_ depends on the tartan. The Isle of Skye that I made for Turpin works because the colors overall are muted and blend together, reducing the "lawn chair" or "painted fence" effect. The MacCallum works because the dark green on one side of the light blue stripe and the black on the other are comparable in tone, making the light blue stripe the most prominent thing you see.

Asking the kiltmaker to offer his/her opinion is a good thing, unless you happen to have a piece of that tartan handy. I typically try out several choices to see what looks good, and I'll commonly scan an option or two for a client to choose from.

But, truly - the only way to know what it will look good is to try it on the tartan _and stand back a ways to see the overall effect_. I can't emphasize the latter enough! I typically drape it on the back of the couch and stand 15' away at least to see what it looks like. Even the tartan by itself looks different from a distance than it does up close, and overall color effects that don't show up when you look at a swatch in your hand can be very prominent at a distance.

As an aside, if you did the US Army tartan to the brown stripe, the colors on either side have quite different color values, and you'd have more than one prominent vertical stripe. I'm not sure I'd like that. The option to pleat to every brown stripe so that pleats alternate (as in the post by cloves) is not often done and, I think, would not be considered "proper" pleating to the stripe. I've seen it occasionally on Black Watch kilts to get around the enormous sett (a pleat with a single black stripe alternating with a pleat that has a double black stripe). But I do remember thinking, when I saw it, "Wow, that's odd."

Cheers,

Barb

**arrogcow** · 21st January 07, 06:17 PM

Two things
1st people keep saying the brown stripe, which stripe is that? Ain't no brown that I can see.

2nd wompet just posted a question about what tartan they are wearing in Tunes of Glory and posted the foloowing pic

This looks like it is pleated to stripe with out a dominant vertical, so someone must me doing it (though it could just be a Hollywood screw up).

3rd (ok three things) the stripe to the yellow is growing on me, so that will probably be the way I'll go, as a military tartan should really be pleated to stripe some way.

Adam

**Barb T** · 22nd January 07, 08:11 AM

The tartan in the picture is not the US Army tartan.

B

**arrogcow** · 22nd January 07, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Barb T.

The tartan in the picture is not the US Army tartan.

B

No it's not (in theroy it is Cameron). It is a military tartan that looks like it has been pleated to stripe without a strong vertical line (i.e. how I originally asked about pleating).

Adam

**Barb T** · 22nd January 07, 10:30 AM

ah - sorry. I misunderstood your post.

Barb

**KiltedCodeWarrior** · 22nd January 07, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Woodsheal

Ok, have to throw in my 2 cents. Imagine the kilt above with the vertical yellow stripes removed. Just visualizing it gives me a strong lawn chair webbing look. And to me, who will be getting one from ROcky as well, the pleating to the yellow stripe looks sharp. I only have one other pleated to the stripe.