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14th March 08, 08:42 AM
#1
 Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC
We had a very good example of discrinination in a thread just in the last week or two.
Do a search here for threads on "The Question" & "Kilt Lifting".
Then take a note pad, your kilt, and go to the Student Union and stand in the hall and ask everyone you can find;
"Why is it perceived to be acceptable to ask a man in a kilt 'The Question' or lift his kilt, when it is Sexual Assualt to do the same to a woman.(or even a man in trousers)"
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14th March 08, 08:54 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC
We had a very good example of discrinination in a thread just in the last week or two.
Do a search here for threads on "The Question" & "Kilt Lifting".
Then take a note pad, your kilt, and go to the Student Union and stand in the hall and ask everyone you can find;
"Why is it perceived to be acceptable to ask a man in a kilt 'The Question' or lift his kilt, when it is Sexual Assualt to do the same to a woman.(or even a man in trousers)"
Good idea. Nice way to gather scientific (or really pseudo-scientific) data. You'll have good things to say either way in support of your position or in opposition to it. Also, you might do a brief historical background and refer to the prohibition in the 18th century. I know it was about more than "just kilts" but it was discrimination nonetheless, and set a strong precedence in some ways.
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14th March 08, 09:01 AM
#3
 Originally Posted by RobertParker
Good idea. Nice way to gather scientific (or really pseudo-scientific) data. You'll have good things to say either way in support of your position or in opposition to it. Also, you might do a brief historical background and refer to the prohibition in the 18th century. I know it was about more than "just kilts" but it was discrimination nonetheless, and set a strong precedence in some ways.
It wasn't just kilts, it was any tartan material
Animo non astutia
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14th March 08, 08:01 AM
#4
I have not experienced any kilt related discrimination in over six years of full time wearing, it has all centered around my tattoos. ;)
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14th March 08, 08:21 AM
#5
I do not know exactly what all information you need, and I do not want to make a long post, so I am going to PM you with my story. Just glean from this what you need & disregard the rest.
I'll have it at you after about noonish Central Time.
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14th March 08, 09:00 AM
#6
Don't know if this qualifies, but my nephew Seamus had an interesting experience of having his kilt lifted in a public high school setting. He wrote about it here http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/t...x.html?t=10893. If he had done this to the young lady in question while she was wearing a SKIRT, he probably would have been suspended.
Animo non astutia
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15th March 08, 08:57 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by McFarkus
Don't know if this qualifies, but my nephew Seamus had an interesting experience of having his kilt lifted in a public high school setting. He wrote about it here http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/t...x.html?t=10893. If he had done this to the young lady in question while she was wearing a SKIRT, he probably would have been suspended.
shoot after the 20/20 report I saw last night, not only would he have been suspended...but thrown in jail and had to become a registered sex offender
they told a story of 2 boys ( 12 and 13 y.o.) who participated in a game called "slapbutt" where they and other kids ( BOTH sexes) would slap each others butts as they ran by them...they actually called it "slapbutt day"
they were held in a county jail for 5 days before their parents were allowed to get them, and ALMOST had to become registered offenders for it.
I understand the need for diligence(sp) and all but I really miss common sense
Obit for common sense
Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend by the name of Common Sense who has been with us for many years.
No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
He will be remembered as having cultivated such value lessons as
knowing when to come in out of the rain,
why the early bird gets the worm,
and that life isn't always fair.
Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you earn)
and reliable parenting strategies (adults, not kids, are in charge).
His health began to rapidly deteriorate when well intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place.
Reports of a six-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate,
teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch,
and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.
It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer aspirin to a student,
but could not inform the parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
Finally, Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband;
churches became businesses;
and criminals received better treatment than their victims.
Common Sense finally gave up the ghost after a woman failed to realize
that a steaming cup of coffee was hot, she spilled a bit on her lap,
and was awarded a huge settlement.
Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust;
his wife, Discretion;
his daughter, Responsibility;
and his son, Reason.
He is survived by two stepbrothers, My Rights and Ima Whiner.
Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.
Irish diplomacy: is telling a man to go to he)) in such a way that he looks forward to the trip!
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14th March 08, 10:20 AM
#8
I wouldn't do anything with the "shocking***" thread as most of the original thread that it was tied to was the back and forth between one guy and why he personally would not wear a kilt and others talking about why they did.
In short, nothing on your topic. Perhaps a more likely path would be to put a poll here (mildly scientific, at best) and list off different possible reactions. "have you ever been refused service?", "have you ever caught flack?", etc.
that would be a good starting point amongst the online community. Then you could poll your school and find those that would object, wouldn't object, etc.
A thought.
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14th March 08, 11:30 AM
#9
well if you start in 1746
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dress_Act
work forward.
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14th March 08, 12:10 PM
#10
I would like to thank everyone who is offering Ideas! I am going ahead and changing it to the discrimination of Kilt wearing and men. the Paper is about Discrimination and Predjudice. I am certain with all the info that I have collected here on Xmarks that I will have a lengthy and quite interesting paper!
I am starting to formulate all my ideas up. the best part of all these stories is, my psychology teacher is the prom commity leader, she makes all the rules and everything. I've already headed her up about the kilt and she said that if it was presentable enough...
thanks!
is there anyone on here that doesn't want their name used in quotes, and if your name isn't posted then your screen name?
thanks!
~Casey
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