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18th April 08, 06:37 AM
#1
That's pretty cool.
so it's basically a longer fly plaid?
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18th April 08, 12:03 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by sharpdressedscot
That's pretty cool.
so it's basically a longer fly plaid?
probably but its tucked under the belt.
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
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18th April 08, 12:23 PM
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That's almost exactly how I dressed the male actors for the wedding scene in "Brigadoon" last weekend! (sorry...don't have any pics right now)
Kilted Teacher and Wilderness Ranger and proud member of Clan Donald, USA
Happy patron of Jack of the Wood Celtic Pub and Highland Brewery in beautiful, walkable, and very kilt-friendly Asheville, NC.
New home of Sierra Nevada AND New Belgium breweries!
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18th April 08, 03:34 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by sharpdressedscot
That's pretty cool.
so it's basically a longer fly plaid?
Longer, pleated differently, and belted on.
One thing I dislike about how most people wear the modern fly plaid is that it is suspended from the shoulder entirely, and left trailing free in the back otherwise.
This one is actually belted on at the waist, which gives it the drape that you see in the rear picture.
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18th April 08, 03:29 PM
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So Matt, how close is this to the two piece belted plaide of the early 18th c. (as seen in Rob Roy)? I don't imagine they sewed belt loops or pleats into their plaids.
Jay
Clan Rose - Constant and True
"I cut a stout blackthorn to banish ghosts and goblins; In a brand new pair of brogues to ramble o'er the bogs and frighten all the dogs " - D. K. Gavan
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18th April 08, 03:37 PM
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 Originally Posted by JRB
So Matt, how close is this to the two piece belted plaide of the early 18th c. (as seen in Rob Roy)? I don't imagine they sewed belt loops or pleats into their plaids.
Well, it's similar in concept, but different in the design specifics. For example, in the early 18th century, they would have been wearing untailored philabegs. The plaids were likely untailored, as well. In other words, they were simply arranging and belting the cloth.
I'm wearing a modern tailored kilt, and the plaid itself also has some tailoring done to assist in wearing. One could achieve the same effect with an untailored piece of cloth, but it would require a bit more work arranging it to belt it on.
M
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18th April 08, 03:41 PM
#7
Thanks, Matt. That's pretty much what I suspected. Either way, that plaid looks fantastic. I never thought I'd consider wearing one but I've totally changed my mind.
Jay
Clan Rose - Constant and True
"I cut a stout blackthorn to banish ghosts and goblins; In a brand new pair of brogues to ramble o'er the bogs and frighten all the dogs " - D. K. Gavan
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18th April 08, 03:52 PM
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 Originally Posted by JRB
Thanks, Matt. That's pretty much what I suspected. Either way, that plaid looks fantastic. I never thought I'd consider wearing one but I've totally changed my mind.
Check this out:
http://www.rrmcian.com/pages/print_gallery.htm
If you look at the top row of pictures, the one on the far left and the one on the far right both have untailored plaids that are seperate from their kilts (and identical in design to the ones used in the film Rob Roy). Both of these men have them arranged in a very similar manner to the way Liam Neeson wore his, in the movie.
...that said, McIan was never known for his historical accuracy (see the MacArthur portrait).
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19th April 08, 06:52 AM
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 Originally Posted by Ryan Ross
Check this out:
http://www.rrmcian.com/pages/print_gallery.htm
If you look at the top row of pictures, the one on the far left and the one on the far right both have untailored plaids that are seperate from their kilts (and identical in design to the ones used in the film Rob Roy). Both of these men have them arranged in a very similar manner to the way Liam Neeson wore his, in the movie.
Thanks for the link. I love those prints despite some of the inaccuracies.
Jay
Clan Rose - Constant and True
"I cut a stout blackthorn to banish ghosts and goblins; In a brand new pair of brogues to ramble o'er the bogs and frighten all the dogs " - D. K. Gavan
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19th April 08, 09:51 AM
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 Originally Posted by JRB
Thanks for the link. I love those prints despite some of the inaccuracies.
Ah, no problem.
And aye, I really enjoy those prints also. Some of them are ridiculously fanciful, but most of them are fairly historical, and all of them are cool.
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