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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    First off, wonderful pictures gentlemen!



    To be fair I don't think that is quite accurate. We are looking at virtually all day wear outfits here, and whether white hose work or not is a formal wear debate. I don't think I have ever read that white hose was part of traditional highland formal attire. The question is do they work with formal wear now?



    You know my feelings about white hose, Jamie. Here are several old photos that show no white hose with evening dress:







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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    First off, wonderful pictures gentlemen!



    To be fair I don't think that is quite accurate. We are looking at virtually all day wear outfits here, and whether white hose work or not is a formal wear debate. I don't think I have ever read that white hose was part of traditional highland formal attire. The question is do they work with formal wear now?
    My answer is a resounding No, however I think we may just have to agree to disagree on this minor point.


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    I used to be bothered that there were few gentlemen that wore hats, carried walking sticks, carried pocket squares, and in general dressed well and behaved politely.

    Now I am simply happy that do those things and try my best to pass it on to the next generation!

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    This I can agree wholeheartedly with, in the grand scheme of things it is the only thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    I used to be bothered that there were few gentlemen that wore hats, carried walking sticks, carried pocket squares, and in general dressed well and behaved politely.

    Now I am simply happy that do those things and try my best to pass it on to the next generation!

    Cheers

    Jamie
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    I grew up in the 1940s & 1950s. The "LOOK" we see here was the "NORM" (Although I grew up in the USA & I never saw a Kilt except in pictures), Men, when in public, wore Jackets,ties, & hats. I can not recall a time seeing my father not so attired. (except when he was engaged in activities that required "work" clothing)

    One aside - I am VERY uncomfortable with the "Sloppy dress" of men today esp. in what are occasions that, IMHO, REQUIRE a Jacket & Tie. ( Church, A nice dinner out, a play etc) I can not begin to list how often I attend these "outings" & I am one of the FEW wearing a Jacket & Tie.

    BTW, I have 2 Daughters , age 27 & 22. How do they feel ?? They LOVE going out with DAD.They both say, that because I "Dress" they can also do so. In fact, if a male companion is with us, the he too is "required" to wear a jacket & Tie. As to the KILT, it did take them a while to accept that, but now they expect it (no, as yet neither has been able to get their males to kilt up, but one can only HOPE)

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    So glad you found and posted those photos! So much we can learn, not only from what they wore, but how they did so. America has such a costume mentality, always having to make a fashion statement. There is such dignity there, which knows nothing of "putting on" the kilt...it is an integral part of them.
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    Super pics, Glen, such a lovely find.
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    Something else I though bears mentioning, I was looking through the photos again, and even though the photos I posted were from the Bonnie Prince Charlie Bicentenial, every man there has a Black cockade on his balmoral, the one listed as unidentified has a white ribbon on his lapel, however his cockade is still black. As the question regarding white cockades comes up from time to time, I thought it was worth a mention.

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    Sanford and Glen,

    I fully understand how very nice (and traditional) diced hose are with formal wear. It's just a pity that diced hose are so very expensive (though I do assume they are well worth the expense).

    I personally don't like black hose with formal wear and most colors of hose seem informal to me.

    I see white hose as a modern take on the black and white of a standard tux outfit. Therefore an acceptable alternative.

    But, as Todd is always saying, "different horses for different courses"

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    Be interesting to see when all the white hose crept in - I have read a claim that they were brought in by the kilt hire establishments.

    I know that GT sells ex hire hose and it's all white.
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    I love the old kilt pics!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Sanford and Glen,

    I fully understand how very nice (and traditional) diced hose are with formal wear. It's just a pity that diced hose are so very expensive (though I do assume they are well worth the expense).

    I personally don't like black hose with formal wear and most colors of hose seem informal to me.

    I see white hose as a modern take on the black and white of a standard tux outfit. Therefore an acceptable alternative.

    But, as Todd is always saying, "different horses for different courses"

    Cheers

    Jamie
    That is why I said that we will have to agree to disagree, Jamie, you have a wonderful sense of style if you feel that white hose are appropriate by all means go ahead and wear them. As for me I've been lucky enough to find good prices for diced, and tartan hose, and yes they are worth it.

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