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20th January 09, 09:49 PM
#21
 Originally Posted by beloitpiper
Why would they compare him to Idi Amin? Because he's black and wearing a kilt? Samuel L. Jackson wore a kilt, and people thought he looked great!
However, Samuel Jackson was not a world leader. Look back on Dukakis in the tank, and John Kerry in the scrubs, and even Obama in the African garb. None of those photos were used in a flattering way. I'm just saying the political fall out would be more negative than positive and therefore not really worth the effort to put Obama in a kilt, at least without some very clear and specific context for it.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see him in a kilt with a nice belt and sporran strap I was actually joking with a friend the other day that if I could only get Obama in a kilt I could retire from my day job.
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20th January 09, 10:26 PM
#22
 Originally Posted by cavscout
However, Samuel Jackson was not a world leader. Look back on Dukakis in the tank, and John Kerry in the scrubs, and even Obama in the African garb. None of those photos were used in a flattering way. I'm just saying the political fall out would be more negative than positive and therefore not really worth the effort to put Obama in a kilt, at least without some very clear and specific context for it.
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Have you ever seen the group photos of all the national leaders at the G8 and other conferences when they don the native garb of the hosting country? They all seem to pull it off with no negative repercussions.
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20th January 09, 11:10 PM
#23
 Originally Posted by gilmore
I see Barack Obama also descends from Robert the Bruce, Malcom Canmore and several other Scots kings, and, like me and a several million others, from King John of England through his daughter, Joanna, whom he married to Llewellyn ap Iowerth. (However, Joanna was not, as listed, a princess of England. She was one of John's several illegitimate children.)
He also (like me and most of the British middle classes) descends from Edward III (and of course from his grandfather, Edward I, "Scotto-Rum-Malleus, Hammer of the Scots".)
Obama and I also share the Clopton ancestry from whom William Aldridge descends.
Do you have this on your Rootsweb site because you and Turpin descend traceably from some of these people as well? Are you, Turpin, me and Barack all provable cousins?
EDIT: in going over the site trying to answer that question, I see that you and Turpin, and I have more recent common ancestors: Rev. John Thomas (1705-1788), a Colonial Virginia/North Carolina Baptist minister, and his wife, Christenator Roberts Thomas (1712-c.1796.) You and Turpin descend from their daughter, Millicent Thomas ( b.1742), while I descend her younger sister, Theresa Thomas (1744-1826.) So we are 6th cousins, probably once removed. Actually, we are double 6th cousins once removed, since I descend from Theresa Thomas in two different ways. (BTW Theresa Thomas' husband, Theophilus Hill, is one of my favorite ancestors. I have a photocopy of a warrant for his arrest for have wantonly and cruelly murdered some one and then made good his escape to East Florida, which was Spanish at the time. A reward of 50 pounds in gold was offered. Makes one proud that others recognized one's forebear's worth. I have often thought of having it antiqued and suitably framed so it could be tastefully displayed over the fireplace.)
Are we not all the same blood? 20,000 years ago "Out of Africa" per MCDNA or the Garden per Judo/Christain/Islamic influence.
The fact is we all breath the same air, live on the same planet, and enjoy the same biology; me thinks that if he is named after my name sake; Robert the Bruce, perchance he is kin. I know not, I care not; if a tartan is named after him, I would appraise it as any other, would I wear it? Depends on whether I liked it or not.
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21st January 09, 12:08 AM
#24
An Obama tartan? That's the coolest thing I've heard today. Sign me up!
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21st January 09, 08:22 AM
#25
I think this thread is bumping against the "No Political Threads" rule and would have been shut down if it were about any other political cult figure.
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21st January 09, 09:32 AM
#26
 Originally Posted by McClef
I wonder if any US President has ever worn a kilt?
I've posted this picture before, but this is the only Presidental figure that I've found that has worn a kilt.
He was a child at the time, but this young lad is Franklin Roosevelt
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21st January 09, 09:42 AM
#27
 Originally Posted by Zardoz
I think this thread is bumping against the "No Political Threads" rule and would have been shut down if it were about any other political cult figure.
Actually it would be more accurate to say:
This thread is bumping against the "No Political Threads" rule and has been shut down.
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