Prince Charlie Coatee

[Bugbear]

I might as well ask what color of jabot one would wear with the doublet?

But I'm really wondering about the colors of silver mounted fur sporrans one might wear...?

[JSFMACLJR]

I might as well ask what color of jabot one would wear with the doublet?

But I'm really wondering about the colors of silver mounted fur sporrans one might wear...?

Hi Ted,

Jabots generally are of one colour, white, although I have seen some that have aged some and have more of a creamy colour to them! I believe that silk jabots are sometimes worn and their colour tends to be more of an ivory.

There isn't a wrong or a right about the colour of fur for a sporran, although one can now find some pretty hideous dyed numbers in blue, and green, and red! Stay away from them, my friend!


Sandford

[Bugbear]

Hi Ted,

Jabots generally are of one colour, white, although I have seen some that have aged some and have more of a creamy colour to them! I believe that silk jabots are sometimes worn and their colour tends to be more of an ivory.

There isn't a wrong or a right about the colour of fur for a sporran, although one can now find some pretty hideous dyed numbers in blue, and green, and red! Stay away from them, my friend!


Sandford

Will do. And one other question. May one wear a doublet and jabot for the black tie attire?

Thanks.

[JSFMACLJR]

Will do. And one other question. May one wear a doublet and jabot for the black tie attire?

Thanks.

Yes you can Ted. I frequently do. In Scotland, a jabot is more popular in the Western Highlands and Isles.

Sandford

[Phil]

Hi Ted,
Jabots generally are of one colour, white, although I have seen some that have aged some and have more of a creamy colour to them! I believe that silk jabots are sometimes worn and their colour tends to be more of an ivory.

The white ones are modern machine-made lace. If they become off-white it will be down to careless cleaning. Older ones such as mine were made from Spanish silk which has a natural off-white colour.

[Bugbear]

The white ones are modern machine-made lace. If they become off-white it will be down to careless cleaning. Older ones such as mine were made from Spanish silk which has a natural off-white colour.

And there would be no way to bleach the silk either, so I would think one would have to be careful. I do like the look of the white lace, but I wanted to be sure it worked for black tie attire.

I'm still interested in that MacKinnon of Dunakin quote by MacMillan of Rathdown. It says the jabot can be worn with the formal argyle.

Perhaps it is taboo to do so now, however, it is interesting to me that it was at one time acceptable.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

And there would be no way to bleach the silk either, so I would think one would have to be careful. I do like the look of the white lace, but I wanted to be sure it worked for black tie attire.

I'm still interested in that MacKinnon of Dunakin quote by MacMillan of Rathdown. It says the jabot can be worn with the formal argyle.

Perhaps it is taboo to do so now, however, it is interesting to me that it was at one time acceptable.

It is still perfectly acceptable today. To pull it off you need a fairly full jabot and a 5 or 6 button waistcoat. At my brother's wedding (30 years ago!) my father, brother, and I all wore jabots-- my brother wore an Argyll, my father wore a spencer, and I wore a coatee.

If I can get my scanner to work I'll post a photo to the wedding attire forum.

[Jock Scot]

I am a Sheriffmuir man myself in very dark green velvet with matching waistcoat.At a pinch I could wear a black bow tie, but mainly a lace jabot and cuffs. Somehow though, it has shrunk more than a wee tad and has been hi jacked by one of my sons! Ho hum.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

I am a Sheriffmuir man myself in very dark green velvet with matching waistcoat.At a pinch I could wear a black bow tie, but mainly a lace jabot and cuffs. Somehow though, it has shrunk more than a wee tad and has been hi jacked by one of my sons! Ho hum.

My exact problem, although mine is in black barathea with ribbed silk facings and waistcoat. I think this "shrinkage" of the Sheriffmuirs should be reported to the Board of Trade.

Like yourself I'm a ruffles and lace man, and reserve the bow tie for outtings with my dress kilt jacket (A.K.A. "an Argyll").

[Bugbear]

Well, as I see it, , the Sheriffmuir (with jabot and cuffs) is a better option than a Prince Charlie coatee.

I'm sure Cynthia will agree.