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19th May 09, 04:41 PM
#21
Certainly weathered tartans are appropriate for formal wear. Here is a photo taken a number of years ago of my wife and me on the way to a ball.
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19th May 09, 04:42 PM
#22
In a great many areas of life there are rules where there don't need to be rules. Kilting seems to be one of those areas. My first tartan was the weathered and I have worn it for formal and casual. I firmly believe it is up to the wearer to decide what he wants to wear not up to some vague "rule" about what to wear. Unless some ancient chief of a tribe comes back to life and shows me the rule I will please myself not some anonymous rule maker. So go for it.
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19th May 09, 05:19 PM
#23
The cool thing about my weathered half Lamont kilt is that it has a black stripe in it and the brown is a rusty kind that would be fine with black. It does have a brown third strap, but I am working on a way to make it removeable and exchangeable with a black strap.
The tartan of the kilt I am saving up for has a lot of coco brown in it, but it also has a black and a gray stripe, so I don't have any worries.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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19th May 09, 05:24 PM
#24
 Originally Posted by bigdad1
In a great many areas of life there are rules where there don't need to be rules. Kilting seems to be one of those areas. My first tartan was the weathered and I have worn it for formal and casual. I firmly believe it is up to the wearer to decide what he wants to wear not up to some vague "rule" about what to wear. Unless some ancient chief of a tribe comes back to life and shows me the rule I will please myself not some anonymous rule maker. So go for it.
Keep in mind too that "Weathered", "Ancient", and other variants are all fairly new inventions
The key question for me would be "how do these colors look/work with a formal rig?" Now since most formal oputfits are black that is what I would base my opinion on
Cheers
Jamie :ootd:
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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19th May 09, 05:32 PM
#25
 Originally Posted by Panache
Keep in mind too that "Weathered", "Ancient", and other variants are all fairly new inventions
The key question for me would be "how do these colors look/work with a formal rig?" Now since most formal oputfits are black that is what I would base my opinion on
Cheers
Jamie :ootd:
I see your point my friend but I still feel the ultimate decision is do you feel comfortable wearing your total outfit. The only caveat being ugly pseudo kilts being worn to a formal bash.
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19th May 09, 05:41 PM
#26
 Originally Posted by Panache
Keep in mind too that "Weathered", "Ancient", and other variants are all fairly new inventions
The key question for me would be "how do these colors look/work with a formal rig?" Now since most formal oputfits are black that is what I would base my opinion on
Cheers
Jamie :ootd:
Just adding some food for thought, I recall a conversation way back on the forum when Hamish mentioned that leather accessories were brown and it was a joy when black was introduced. Then black took over as it was more "formal" and now with the growth of day wear as a separate category we see more brown or other colors.
The kilt is the kilt, how informal or formal, you want it to be depends all on your accessories, and the occasion. Bradley has shown that it does indeed look smashing, in no small part to his personal confidence as a kilt wearer.
I also like MoR suggestions.
Rob :ootd:
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19th May 09, 05:45 PM
#27
One of the things I have started to tell my customers when they ask about accessories and the different levels of dress is this;
Let the Kilt stand on it's own.
The Jacket will set the level of formality of the outfit.
Match the level of formality of the jacket with your accessories. ie Formal Sporran with Cantle top with PC Jacket. Flapped Sporran with fur with Argyle and so on. (These are not hard and fast "Rules" just advice)
But the Kilt can stand on it's own very well. So I would say yes!!! A weathered version of a Tartan can most certainly be worn formally.
Steve Ashton
www.freedomkilts.com
Skype (webcam enabled) thewizardofbc
I wear the kilt because: Swish + Swagger = Swoon.
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19th May 09, 06:25 PM
#28
Don't forget the hose!! 
Just kidding.
I tried to ask my inner curmudgeon before posting, but he sprayed me with the garden hose…
Yes, I have squirrels in my brain…
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19th May 09, 06:34 PM
#29
Just my tuppence worth here. The Bramer jacket, (Argyle with PC cuffs) really is a formality spanning jacket. With a rolled collar, and four-in-hand tie, it is a dressy suit, with or without waistcoat. Add a formal shirt, bow tie, and three button waistcoat, and it becomes the equivalent of a Tuxedo. Love the flexibility, as I do attend functions where "black-tie" is required.
I was given a kilt-length of "weathered/ancient tartan by my eldest Grandson who is a student in England, He picked it up at an auction of a going-out-of-business sale of a kilt shop. Now all I need is to raise the money to get it made into a tank. Yes, I fully intend to wear it with my Braemer jacket. I also intend to wear it with brown leather accessories for day wear, as the ground colour is lovat blue (or very much like it.) You have been given good advice here. Now just be sure you are happy with the results.
The pipes are calling, resistance is futile. - MacTalla Mor
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19th May 09, 08:19 PM
#30
Er, did I miss something?
 Originally Posted by bigdad1
In a great many areas of life there are rules where there don't need to be rules. Kilting seems to be one of those areas. My first tartan was the weathered and I have worn it for formal and casual. I firmly believe it is up to the wearer to decide what he wants to wear not up to some vague "rule" about what to wear. Unless some ancient chief of a tribe comes back to life and shows me the rule I will please myself not some anonymous rule maker. So go for it.
I read every post leading up to yours, and no one cited any rules regarding the wearing of weathered tartans. In fact, the most hide-bound, fuddy-duddy, uber traditionalilsts (me and SFMACLJR) were 100% in favour of weathered tartans with formal attire.
So... where were the rules cited? I agree with the last four words of your post, but I don't get the stuff about rules.
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