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30th June 09, 03:40 PM
#1
I've never and don't plan to worry about wearing my rabbit sporran, if fact before reading this thread, it never crossed my mind! And I have not changed my mind about wanting a full mask skunk sporran at some point.
I have 2 queries for Heilanner, since he feels so strongly;
First, You seem to base your dislike of fur and faced sporrans on ethical rather than fashion grounds, but you say other leather sporrans are OK. I fail to see the ethical difference between "plain leather", assumed to be cow, but usually of unknown origin, and whatever fur sporrans you might see. They are all animal hides. If you think the furry ones are ugly, that's cool, but don't call anybody out for abusing animals if you are wearing any leather kit at all, including brogues and belts.
Second, What's with not capitalizing "I" as the first-person singular pronoun?
Last edited by Zardoz; 30th June 09 at 03:45 PM.
Order of the Dandelion, The Houston Area Kilt Society, Bald Rabble in Kilts, Kilted Texas Rabble Rousers, The Flatcap Confederation, Kilted Playtron Group.
"If you’re going to talk the talk, you’ve got to walk the walk"
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30th June 09, 03:34 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by McMurdo
Nighthawk
You reminded me there was a woman at work that was disgusted in my Ferguson Britt Skunk, funny thing she was eating a Big Mac at the time. I commented on her choice of lunch and that was the end of the argument.
Why is your FB sporran made from horse meat?
 Originally Posted by heilanner
i wouldn't blame anyone if they decided to throw paint over someone wearing a mask sporran... or even a fur 'dress' sporran.
Nobody deserves paint thrown on them. At minimum that is assault. if one has a problem with another's dress then, even though extremely impolite, they could vocalize it. I have no sympathy for these organizations that do such things as wantonly commit assault, and other crimes up to and including terrorism in it's strictest sense.
Then again not many have the stones to mess with a guy in a kilt, a middle-aged women in a mink coat is a much easier and safer target.
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30th June 09, 03:50 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by ccga3359
Then again not many have the stones to mess with a guy in a kilt, a middle-aged women in a mink coat is a much easier and safer target.
That's why you don't see PETA at biker rallies!
"Never buy wool again. Choose only cotton, synthetics and other non-animal
fibers. The sheep are embarrassed when they are shorn, sometimes they are
nicked during the process, and they get cold afterward."
(PETA News, August 13, 1989)
What a hoot!
Order of the Dandelion, The Houston Area Kilt Society, Bald Rabble in Kilts, Kilted Texas Rabble Rousers, The Flatcap Confederation, Kilted Playtron Group.
"If you’re going to talk the talk, you’ve got to walk the walk"
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30th June 09, 04:06 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by Rob Wright
Ok guys, I must say I am very disappointed in ya'll, we have five pages and not ONE! of you has mentioned the fact that fur sporrans, real or faux, have a tendency to be absently petted by the other half of the species! SHAME ON YOU
This is true. And they like to run their fingers through my... tassels.
 Originally Posted by The Guy in the Kilt at UC
Not just the other half.
I'm so glad it was you who mentioned it.
Anyway, unless you are a celebrity who's likely to get mentioned in the press for having gotten splashed with something, I think it's highly unlikely that you'd be considered a target.
Regards,
Rex.
At any moment you must be prepared to give up who you are today for who you could become tomorrow.
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30th June 09, 04:07 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by george7
 Originally Posted by Zardoz
That's why you don't see PETA at biker rallies!
"Never buy wool again. Choose only cotton, synthetics and other non-animal
fibers. The sheep are embarrassed when they are shorn, sometimes they are
nicked during the process, and they get cold afterward."
(PETA News, August 13, 1989)
What a hoot!
That's why sheep are not shorn in the winter when it's cold, but when the cold weather ends... But if you want to press a point.. Why not omit the pertenant facts... LOL.
“Don’t judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant.”
– Robert Louis Stevenson
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30th June 09, 09:00 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by Scott West
Has anyone, while wearing a fur sporran, been "assaulted" by animal rights activists?
Go ahead and get the Ferguson Britt sporran, you'll love it! I have two, and wear them quite often. Here in Alaska, fur is pretty common, so the sporrans don't attract any attention for their materials. Remember, people are likely to be startled by your kilt and not notice much else anyway.
Abax
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30th June 09, 10:11 AM
#7
i only know one person who owns a sporran that is not plain leather and he wears a horse-hair one as part of his outfit for the Lonach March. he normally wears a leather one though.
personally i think 'mask' sporrans are hideous and people who wear them should be embarrassed and ashamed. i wouldn't blame anyone if they decided to throw paint over someone wearing a mask sporran... or even a fur 'dress' sporran.
i got a sealskin 'dress' sporran with my first kilt and the few times i wore it i felt sad. i now do not wear it. ever.
however...
if you are a hunter and you have gone out and hunted the animal, killed it, eaten it and had a sporran made from it's hide i guess i am ok with that as that is natural human behaviour. mass cullings of seals, minks or any other animal purely for their fur is an outrage though, and we as a race should have abandoned the practice centuries ago.
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30th June 09, 10:55 AM
#8
A Message from the Moderators
Panache with Mod Hat firmly on
Ladies and Gentlemen of XMTS,
This thread has been restored after a short review by the Moderating Staff of XMTS.
Since there was such interest as of late as to when a thread goes bad and the mods feel the need to intervene I and the other members of the Moderating Staff would like to welcome you all to the "Tipping Point" of this thread.
Despite my prior post attempting to warn that this type of thread has been come up again and again on XMTS and invariably turns political, heilanner has seen fit to post and sidle right up to the lines of our rules without a lot of respect for members who hold different opinions than his.
heilanner's post had nothing to do with the OP's original question but he took it on himself to take the opportunity to announce his feelings to all on fur sporrans.
It is almost a sure thing that this will in turn illicit a strong response from those who do not share his feelings regarding fur and the whole thread will be locked or pulled permanently because of political content.
So now that we have found ourselves here the question remains for the membership to decide how to proceed.
Do we wish to follow helianner off the OP's topic and get the thread locked/removed?
Or do we stick with the original question?
The choice is yours .
Respectfully
Jamie and the Mod Squad
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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30th June 09, 11:14 AM
#9
All: Big thanks to Panache for moderating this minefield. The fault is mine - I should not have posted a temptation so easily mutated into a gathering of political soapboxes. I appreciate all of the posts, indeed, I expected and received honest opinions so thank you. While I can appreciate the sensitivities behind allowing a potentially heated post to continue, in this instance I readily defer to the experience of Panache, the Mod Squad and the Rabble.
Kilt On Everyone!
Respectfully,
Scott West
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30th June 09, 12:02 PM
#10
 Originally Posted by Panache
Panache with Mod Hat firmly on
Do we wish to follow helianner off the OP's topic and get the thread locked/removed?
I was actually thinking I should ask Helianner if he wants to sell me that seal skin sporran so it doesn't go to waste cuz I like furry little creatures and I'm a member of PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals
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