The Border Gathering

[McClef]

More great pictures Alex - looks like the X Markers who attended had a good time!

[Chas]

aye... nice o' him tae wear a kilt fur the events.....

I don't know what clan affiliation Lord Lyon has, but if he was there officially, I don't think he would be allowed to wear a kilt.

it is ainly fair tae point oot that Alex happened tae catch Jack Broom (Provost o' Dumfries) at a bad moment here an disnae actually look like this!

Oh, you've ruined it for me - I so hoped that was what he looked like, all the time.

Regards

Chas

[Pour1Malt]

I don't know what clan affiliation Lord Lyon has, but if he was there officially, I don't think he would be allowed to wear a kilt.



Oh, you've ruined it for me - I so hoped that was what he looked like, all the time.

Regards

Chas

no allowed? that's crazy... he couldnae wear a Queen o' The Sooth whilst i' Dumfries?... arr a Solway Spirit?... arr a Pride o' Scotland?....

if ya arr richt Chas- (an ya probably arr) that's a national disgrace...

[Phil]

Great photos, Alex, and they seem to have started a bit of a stooshie. Anyway I always thought these Lord Lyons, you know, heraldic types, went around in fancy gold tabards and all those ridiculous accoutrements whereas he looks to be a perfectly normal-looking nice sort of guy. You live and learn.

[Jock Scot]

Great photos, Alex, and they seem to have started a bit of a stooshie. Anyway I always thought these Lord Lyons, you know, heraldic types, went around in fancy gold tabards and all those ridiculous accoutrements whereas he looks to be a perfectly normal-looking nice sort of guy. You live and learn.

The trouble is Phil, is that the longer you live, the more there is to learn!

[Chas]

no allowed? that's crazy... he couldnae wear a Queen o' The Sooth whilst i' Dumfries?... arr a Solway Spirit?... arr a Pride o' Scotland?....

if ya arr richt Chas- (an ya probably arr) that's a national disgrace...

Lord Lyon is one of 'The Great Officers of State'. He has just emerged from a complicated court case with various Scottish Barons, the ramifications of which are still being debated throughout the heraldic world. As part of the Royal household and Her Majesty's representative he cannot be seen to favour one district over another. I suppose he might have got away with a discrete sprig of 'clan plant' in his lapel - but not anything more than that.

Mores the pity.

The other thing is; he might not be a kilt wearer at all! There doesn't seem to be a Sellars tartan. The closest is Sellers for the Sillars family, but they aren't his family.

Regards

Chas

[Phil]

The trouble is Phil, is that the longer you live, the more there is to learn!

Indeed. I hope I never stop.

[cessna152towser]

A flashback to the Edinburgh gathering, note that the Lord Lyon also wore a business suit on that occasion. This is obviously the public image which he chooses to present. The Lord Lyon is an officer of the Scottish Courts and attended both the Border gathering and the Edinburgh gathering in his official capacity. Having myself served in the lower Scottish Courts (District, Magistrates, or Justice of the Peace courts) for many years I wore a business suit, it was only within the final six years of my court service that I increasingly began to wear a kilt to the office and in court and even then it was almost always a solid black kilt with black hose, white shirt, black tie and black Argyle jacket, and on a very rare occasion a Black Watch kilt. Anything which favoured one clan or locality would have been unacceptable.

[Chas]

A flashback to the Edinburgh gathering, note that the Lord Lyon also wore a business suit on that occasion. This is obviously the public image which he chooses to present. The Lord Lyon is an officer of the Scottish Courts and attended both the Border gathering and the Edinburgh gathering in his official capacity. Having myself served in the lower Scottish Courts (District, Magistrates, or Justice of the Peace courts) for many years I wore a business suit, it was only within the final six years of my court service that I increasingly began to wear a kilt to the office and in court and even then it was almost always a solid black kilt with black hose, white shirt, black tie and black Argyle jacket, and on a very rare occasion a Black Watch kilt. Anything which favoured one clan or locality would have been unacceptable.

I agree entirely - my point exactly. Even if he wanted to, he just couldn't do it.

Regards

Chas

[Pour1Malt]

so how daes a Pride O' Scotland, a solid black kilt, arr a pinstriped kilt favour yin clan arr locality o'er anither?

I'd say wearin' troosers says he favours the English o'er the Scots...