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    Thanks Chas and MOR for that information.. It was a thought that struck me and since I am at work, I could not look it up..
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    Since Don Vicente's death the King of Spain has made no appointment to the office of Cronista Rey de Armas. That being the case, those persons resident in North America who wish to avail themselves of a substantive grant of arms, but do not meet the stringent requirements of the Lord Lyon or the Chief Herald of Ireland, may do so by applying to the Bureau of Heraldry in Pretoria, RSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    Since Don Vicente's death the King of Spain has made no appointment to the office of Cronista Rey de Armas. That being the case, those persons resident in North America who wish to avail themselves of a substantive grant of arms, but do not meet the stringent requirements of the Lord Lyon or the Chief Herald of Ireland, may do so by applying to the Bureau of Heraldry in Pretoria, RSA.
    Scott -- I would image the fees are much more reasonable as well, given the rand to dollar exchange.

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    Well, yes, their fees are much less eye-watering than say, the College of Arms.

    It is generally conceded that to have any sort of standing, arms need to be granted, confirmed, or recorded, by some sort of government authority. Assumed arms, or those devised by private bodies such as the American College of Heraldry, have no substantive basis in law and are therefore "not recognized" by the heraldic officers in the various offices of arms.

    Something that I have always found amusing is the snobbery associated with "who granted your arms". No one office of arms has a monopoly on the nobility associated with a grant of arms. All granted arms are equal, and granted arms have always been the threshold of nobility, one that any virtuous and well deserving person may cross with comparative ease.

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