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19th November 09, 05:28 AM
#21
 Originally Posted by jhockin
And do you have X Marks badges, in silver? i might think about getting one of THOSE!
- on the subject of "allegiance to the clan chief": since most ( not all chiefs did this) of our Scottish ancestors were thrown off the clan land, to make way for sheep ( "the Highland clearances"), i personally, ( and I mean no offense to anyone, by this) wouldn't feel much "allegiance" to their descendants ( no personal grudge, either).
If you do not wish to display allegiance to a chief because of something his ancestors did 200 years ago, that's up to you. Don't wear his crest badge.
But that has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. Please let's not take this off topic.
Re: the X Marks badge, sure he could make one up. He's done badges for SAMS (the Scottish American Military Society) and other groups before.
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19th November 09, 06:34 AM
#22
Thanks to the Industrial Revolution...
Thanks, Matt. I did read about his production methods on your site, and found his site, too. I figured he had to use the same cast for the belt and buckle to meet the price, and thus considerable "requirements" would necessitate substantial fees. Understandable, really.
Funny enough, this is the same silver smith that I bought my badge from about 15 years ago. The Gaelic misspelling notwithstanding, it's a really nice badge, and I've never thought about replacing it. I personally feel that the crest badge is seriously misrepresented, given its considerable symbolic meaning and the commercial marketing of the badges almost as trinkets. Just another twist in the knot of the Scottish traditional dress market...
 Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome
I'm going to answer your question by saying it likely depends on how much you want to spend. If you read about his production methods on our site, he actually casts the crest seperately from the strap and buckle. Then the two are soldered together. He does this for a variety of reasons, but one of them is because he can use the same strap and buckle design on all the badges.
So if you had a particular design you wanted for the strap and buckle, no doubt he would have to charge more, because he'd have to create a new mold just for you.
And about the repair work you, I'd have to ask. PM or email me if you'd like me to find out for you.
Here's tae us, Whas like us... Deil the Yin!
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19th November 09, 06:48 AM
#23
Translation...
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
To the second question,the clan badge really ought to be within the belt and buckle wherever you are in the world and most definitely in Scotland.
To translate Jock's genteel High English to Americanese: I believe he means that to wear a badge sans belt and buckle is to claim that you own the arms to which that badge is taken from... In Scotland this is a criminal act, and would likely offend most any chief. So make sure that if you wear a badge minus the belt/buckle that it is from YOUR coat of arms.
Here's tae us, Whas like us... Deil the Yin!
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19th November 09, 06:59 AM
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Post deleted after reading Matt's reply above.
Last edited by macwilkin; 19th November 09 at 07:44 AM.
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19th November 09, 08:04 AM
#25
See? I learned something! I CAN be taught! ;)
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19th November 09, 09:00 AM
#26
 Originally Posted by Deil the Yin
To translate Jock's genteel High English to Americanese: I believe he means that to wear a badge sans belt and buckle is to claim that you own the arms to which that badge is taken from... In Scotland this is a criminal act, and would likely offend most any chief. So make sure that if you wear a badge minus the belt/buckle that it is from YOUR coat of arms.
I am obliged to you sir.
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19th November 09, 01:19 PM
#27
I was by the museum today, the photos do not do these justice, they really look great, and are another thing I must put on the top of my never ending needs list. You really have to see them up close to appreciate them.
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