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10th June 10, 03:46 AM
#21
Trying to keep on topic to OP.
T.
Last edited by macwilkin; 10th June 10 at 03:54 AM.
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10th June 10, 05:02 AM
#22
I see nothing wrong with your choice to wear this tartan. I'd suggest getting it in the best kilt you can afford--don't go cheap on it--you'll thank yourself later.
I'm a descendant of a 'splt' family during this conflict. My paternal GGGranfather fought for the CSA in the 31st. Virginia and his first cousin fought for the USA in the 15th. West Virginia. I designed a tartan and proudly wear this kilt to honor both sides. Of course there is a blend of blue and grey in it. It's on the Scottish Register of tartans #10127 if you're interested in checking it out.
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10th June 10, 05:19 AM
#23
As a life long resident of the North with family that served only in the Union, I would not were the Confederate Memorial, but would not look down on anyone that did. Northern or Southern. It is a very beautiful combination that when I first saw it I wanted it. But the traditionalist in me finds no linkage to it.
 Originally Posted by Detroitpete
I'm a descendant of a 'splt' family during this conflict. My paternal GGGranfather fought for the CSA in the 31st. Virginia and his first cousin fought for the USA in the 15th. West Virginia. I designed a tartan and proudly wear this kilt to honor both sides. Of course there is a blend of blue and grey in it. It's on the Scottish Register of tartans #10127 if you're interested in checking it out.
Very nice creation Mark. I like the symbolism that was included in your design.
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10th June 10, 05:25 AM
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If you're wanting to wear the Confederate Memorial to honor the soldiers of "the South", keep in mind that geography did not necessarily dictate allegiance to either of the two governments. Many folks in the Appalachians sided with the Union, as did a few flat-landers.
I think it's a beautiful tartan, and if you get the kilt, I hope to see you at Games and such.
--dbh
When given a choice, most people will choose.
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10th June 10, 05:47 AM
#25
 Originally Posted by Zardoz
Read Celeste Ray's great book "Highland Heritage", that will help explain the nexus of Highlandism and southern traditions, although rationality doesn't really play a big part...
Exactly. That's why I recommended the book in the thread below for all who are interested in "American Highland Games" as a sociological phenemenon! Let me know when you get through the rest of the book and we can start a discussion thread about the author's theories.
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...52/index4.html
David
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10th June 10, 05:50 AM
#26
 Originally Posted by piperdbh
If you're wanting to wear the Confederate Memorial to honor the soldiers of "the South", keep in mind that geography did not necessarily dictate allegiance to either of the two governments. Many folks in the Appalachians sided with the Union, as did a few flat-landers.
I think it's a beautiful tartan, and if you get the kilt, I hope to see you at Games and such.
Point of information: every state that seceded also produced at least one regiment for service in the Union Army. Besides West Virginia, which seceded from Virginia in 1863 to rejoin the Union, large portions of Eastern Tennessee, Northern Alabama and Arkansas and the German areas of Texas remained loyal to the Republic. In the case of Northern Arkansas, 6 regiments of Cavalry, Infantry and Artillery were raised from the "Mountain Feds" of the Arkansas Ozarks. They served on garrison duty here in SW Missouri and NW Arkansas, fighting irregular partisans, and were valued for their knowledge of the country.
An excellent of information regarding the Southern Loyalists is Lincoln's Loyalists: Union Soldiers from the Confederacy by Richard N. Current.
T.
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10th June 10, 05:52 AM
#27
 Originally Posted by MrShoe
As a life long resident of the North with family that served only in the Union, I would not were the Confederate Memorial, but would not look down on anyone that did. Northern or Southern. It is a very beautiful combination that when I first saw it I wanted it. But the traditionalist in me finds no linkage to it.
There is a Federal Memorial Tartan, produced by the Mass. Department of the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War. At least one Xmarks member has a kilt in this tartan, made by Matt Newsome.
T.
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10th June 10, 05:52 AM
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Thanks, Todd. It looks like there were more than "a few" flat-landers fighting for the Union.
--dbh
When given a choice, most people will choose.
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10th June 10, 05:53 AM
#29
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Point of information: every state that seceded also produced at least one regiment for service in the Union Army. Besides West Virginia, which seceded from Virginia in 1863 to rejoin the Union, large portions of Eastern Tennessee, Northern Alabama and Arkansas and the German areas of Texas remained loyal to the Republic. In the case of Northern Arkansas, 6 regiments of Cavalry, Infantry and Artillery were raised from the "Mountain Feds" of the Arkansas Ozarks. They served on garrison duty here in SW Missouri and NW Arkansas, fighting irregular partisans, and were valued for their knowledge of the country.
An excellent of information regarding the Southern Loyalists is Lincoln's Loyalists: Union Soldiers from the Confederacy by Richard N. Current.
T.
Again with good information and great resources! Thanks.
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10th June 10, 06:13 AM
#30
 Originally Posted by piperdbh
Thanks, Todd. It looks like there were more than "a few" flat-landers fighting for the Union. 
At least 120,000 of them, according to Current's book. 
T.
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