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8th December 10, 02:09 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by Chas
The other thing is, if you are not doing anything illegal, immoral or fattening, why would there be a problem?
 Originally Posted by paulhenry
As Chas says if you have done nothing wrong what is the problem
I really don't like this line of reasoning. Just because one isn't guilty of something doesn't mean they MUST submit to whatever request is made of them or be thought guilty.
"Can I take your picture?"
"No"
"Why not? Got something to hide?"
"Oh well since you put it that way, I INSIST you take my pic, as it's my job to now prove my innocence."
Absolutely not.
Simply not wanting to appear in the center of a photograph should be a good enough reason to turn down would-be photographers, at least IMO. It's not my job to prove myself or my innocence to anyone else, and it's THEY who must deal with it, not me.
Of course, being in public, there's no expectation of privacy, and simply wearing a kilt means you'll draw more attention than someone wearing jeans and a t-shirt, AND that same person can simply take your picture anyway and there's nothing you can do about it. But there is a difference to me appearing in a clandestine pic and a posed one. Sometimes I'm not in the mood to stand and smile or pose in any other way for someone else, and wearing a kilt shouldn't force a change in that.
Don't get me wrong, probably 90% of the time I don't mind people wanting a pic. On the average encounter it's very positive and I have met some pretty interesting people over the years. But I don't think it should be a requirement for any of us to pose every time, or to think of declining a request as a bad thing for some reason.
Last edited by Teufel Hunden; 8th December 10 at 03:18 PM.
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8th December 10, 02:23 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by Teufel Hunden
I hate this line of reasoning. .......
Don't get me wrong, probably 90% of the time I don't mind people wanting a pic. On the average encounter it's very positive and I have met some pretty interesting people over the years. But I don't think it should be a requirement for any of us to pose every time, or to think of declining a request as a bad thing for some reason.
I think you are taking my comment too much to heart, I agree with you that we have no requirement to pose with people. I take hundreds, or even thousands of photos every month, and some of those are of people, but they are never posed, just natural, and because of that I certainly don't mind if someone wants to take a quick photo of me, I was kilted in Brugges last weekend, and there were dozens of people taking my picture,some secretly(they thought) did I mind, not at all, beacuse in a similar situation I'd also be taking pictures of interesting or unusual sights!
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8th December 10, 05:17 AM
#3
just about anyone can take a photo of anyone in the public arena
This.
Everyone here likely has their image recorded many times a day without even knowing it (whether kilted or not). Security cameras and other means of photography/videography are everywhere. People on the street take pictures of other people all the time. It's perfectly legal and there's not much you can do about it.
Refusing someone's polite request for a photo doesn't do a bit of good. They will in many cases take your picture anyway, without you knowing it.
If you don't want the attention of others, it's probably best to just wear trousers. But if you wear a kilt, being photographed comes with the territory.
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8th December 10, 07:10 AM
#4
This is why we always need to be dressed well to represent the rest of us well. Like how the news always finds the dumbest individuals to represent the community, no one wants to be the posterchild for improper kiltwear or why men don't look good in kilts.
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8th December 10, 08:04 AM
#5
I was at my sons Boy Scout meeting last night, talking with one of the other fathers. We got on the discussion of hair style somehow. I mentioned that I had gone from really long hair to a shaved head back in August. He said "Wow! That big of a change takes some real stones!" I said "If I were concerned with what complete strangers think of me, I wouldn't wear a kilt." And that's my attitude towards being photographed and subsequently ridiculed. If you're stupid and inconsiderate enough to do that, then that's your problem; not mine. Photograph away for all I care!
"Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.
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8th December 10, 08:57 AM
#6
I personally do not have a problem with pictures. I do know some folks whose spiritual beliefs are not condusive to photographs, especially if the subject is spiritual in nature.
Local pueblo tribes do not allow pictures at certain events or locations. As a wedding officiant I am often in other folks "territory" so I differ to their wishes.
If I am on the "street", I really don't care. A good man once said "Love thy Neighbor as you love yourself", so if I can put a smile on someone's face and give them something to remember, sure enough! ith:
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8th December 10, 07:23 AM
#7
I don't mind at all, I think it's funny to be a 'tourist attraction"! In fact, if it's a cute girl, I'll usually get out my own camera too. I'm already all over the "social networks", so it's too late to worry about that..
Order of the Dandelion, The Houston Area Kilt Society, Bald Rabble in Kilts, Kilted Texas Rabble Rousers, The Flatcap Confederation, Kilted Playtron Group.
"If you’re going to talk the talk, you’ve got to walk the walk"
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8th December 10, 07:23 AM
#8
In general, those that actually ask permission are not those you need to worry about.
Animo non astutia
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8th December 10, 07:52 AM
#9
What he said...
 Originally Posted by McFarkus
In general, those that actually ask permission are not those you need to worry about.
I think it's much more polite to actually ask permission before taking a picture of someone, so I would generally be inclined to say "Sure" if asked. I had a girl "secretly" take a picture of me in a Lowe's home improvement store the other night...I considered saying something to her like "generally, it would be considered polite to ask first"...but I just let it go. It wasn't in a WalMart store, so I guess I don't have to be concerned about showing up on PeopleofWalmart.com.
"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." -- Thomas Paine
Scottish-American Military Society Post 1921
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8th December 10, 09:13 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by McFarkus
In general, those that actually ask permission are not those you need to worry about.
This sums it up succinctly... I do not mind at all stopping for pictures when someone asks.
I am asked all the time when in my band uniform. I'm sure my picture is is photo albums from the four corners of the globe and it doesn't bother me in the least.
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