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    This one slipped by me, despite my having provided the original artwork for Ted.
    My thanks to Cygnus for turning the zebra forcene to face the dexter (an animal facing the sinister is regarded as being coward).
    I would suggest that the zebra fill a bit more of the shield than in the most recent images, and that the mound take up less of it.
    And the idea of using a cactus flower for a badge sounds excellent – in fact, it would work well as a crest, instead of the zebra’s head.
    As has been pointed out, adding a blossom to the shield would make it unnecessarily fussy. It would also be out of place for a zebra to share the shield with a cactus, since they are from different continents.
    And there you are, Ted: your own coat of arms.
    As a US citizen you are not obliged to register it or obtain a grant, but it might be worthwhile registering it with one of the private registries in your country – that way you can ensure that at least in certain circles it is acknowledged as being your property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_Oettle View Post
    This one slipped by me, despite my having provided the original artwork for Ted.
    My thanks to Cygnus for turning the zebra forcene to face the dexter (an animal facing the sinister is regarded as being coward).
    I would suggest that the zebra fill a bit more of the shield than in the most recent images, and that the mound take up less of it.
    And the idea of using a cactus flower for a badge sounds excellent – in fact, it would work well as a crest, instead of the zebra’s head.
    As has been pointed out, adding a blossom to the shield would make it unnecessarily fussy. It would also be out of place for a zebra to share the shield with a cactus, since they are from different continents.
    And there you are, Ted: your own coat of arms.
    As a US citizen you are not obliged to register it or obtain a grant, but it might be worthwhile registering it with one of the private registries in your country – that way you can ensure that at least in certain circles it is acknowledged as being your property.
    Regards,
    Mike
    Thanks Mike. Perhaps a tiger aloe... which is South African and also growing in my front yard in several large rosette patches.

    As to totem research... I don't mean to be a zebra without stripes, but... I've looked it up in several books, and the ancestors of wild asses and zebras that also evolved into horses did originate in North America beginning about six million years ago, and going extinct in North America around eight thousand years ago.

    Basically, horses came full circle and hit the ground running, coevolved, as well as domesticated, over here in the States where their ancient ancestors originated. Zebras, for the most part, are not domesticated, so did not tag along with the Spanish; they mainly live in zoos over here. Wild Horses: A Spirit Unbroken, by Elwyn Hartley Edwards (Voyageur Press, 1995) page 8.

    But, sometimes a good symbol has many layers of meaning...
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    Hi, Ted – yes, as you say, Eohippus was a North American beast . . . but that was a long, long, long time ago.
    The word zebra is of Portuguese origin, but etymologists don’t seem able to agree on how it got there. There is apparently a Spanish word that is similar (cebra), but it would seem to have been borrowed by the Portuguese from either kiKongo or Amharic (both of these languages being African).
    It was originally applied to a kind of wild *** (apparently now extinct).
    Attempts have been made to domesticate them. In the late 19th century the Zeederberg coaching company used a team of zebra to pull its stage coaches in parts of the Zuid Afrikaansche Republiek (later called the Transvaal), because horses could not stand up to the tropical diseases in the far eastern and northern parts.
    My great-grandmother’s second husband, Hugh Exton, was the town photographer in Pietersburg (now called Polokwane and capital of Limpopo Province) and took the only known picture of the team in action.
    The experiment did not last long, though, and other attempts to domesticate zebras have not had much success.
    I am aware that zebras, giraffe, ostriches (all solely African) and elephants (both African and Indian) can be found in parts of the United States, but they certainly are not indigenous there.
    But your idea of an aloe is an insightful one. Aloes (in many shapes and sizes) are common across Southern Africa, and a particularly tall variety, Aloe ferox, is used as a symbol by various institutions in this country, including the Eastern Cape Province.
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    A cactus flower for a badge would be really nice, and I like the forcene zebra.
    What motto will you use? "Credo in sandwicci" just somehow doesn't quite work.
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    That is better; though you can do with the image what you want!

    The biggest problem is that I am not a graphic designer or artist by any stretch of the imagination, and the file was made using very basic software. These things together lead to a very pixelated image.

    I suppose I was simply excusing myself, apologizing for the poor quality of the image, and wishing that I could do better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cygnus View Post
    That is better; though you can do with the image what you want!

    The biggest problem is that I am not a graphic designer or artist by any stretch of the imagination, and the file was made using very basic software. These things together lead to a very pixelated image.

    I suppose I was simply excusing myself, apologizing for the poor quality of the image, and wishing that I could do better!
    If you can convert your image to a vector image and then down load that to Ted he can then trot on over to any printer and have it printed (tee-shirts, flags, what have you) any size he'd like without the problems of pixellation.

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    Thank you to all for producing the two different zebra and shields, as well as, writing up the blazoning.
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    Thanks for the additional information, Mike, that's very interesting.

    Ya, there would be controversy and fist fights among experts in calling the mustang, or better yet the wild American horses, "indigenous," however, they have adapted and evolved to the environment of the west, and are not the same as the original Spanish horses, or any other horses for that matter, though many of those genes are still in the pool. In other words, their gene pool has stored information, through adaptation for five-hundred years, about the American Southwest, it's environment, flora, and fauna, and the Southwest has, in the same way, adapted to the horse. That's good enough for me, considering the wild ancestors of the horse did originate in North America.
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    Here you go again, Ted, threadjcaking your own thread.

    When will the t-shirts be ready?
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    Quote Originally Posted by piperdbh View Post
    Here you go again, Ted, threadjcaking your own thread.

    When will the t-shirts be ready?
    Thanks, piperdbh, no T-shirts.

    I know I have a little bit different view point on some things, but we were discussing the symbolic meaning of the heraldic beast, which has been compared to totem here in the heraldry forum. I strayed off into the horse history, I guess...
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