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24th June 11, 10:01 PM
#21
 Originally Posted by R.S.Buff
I took advantage of new excellent research and cloth reproduction done by Kochan-Phillips Historical Textiles in reproducing the broadcloth and stitch by stitch accurate coatee pattern and by Peter MacDonald for recreating the Wilsons of Bannockburn tartan cloth.
To add some historical detail.
The colours are Wilsons' shades c1780-1840 and the cloth matched to their 78th Coarse Kilt setting inclding the broad black selvedge mark (R.S. Buff, you might want to show the detail) and woven as a coarse type cloth which closely resembles Wilsons' hard tartan.
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24th June 11, 10:39 PM
#22
Awesome Job! That's really impressive and it looks great!
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30th June 11, 05:36 PM
#23
This is the black selvedge mark at the bottom of the kilt. They were woven selvedge to selvedge so there is no band at the top. The Key Pattern Book had the coarse kilt width at 22". Is that correct Peter?

And for Matthew here is the back view.
kiltmaker and tailor
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30th June 11, 06:41 PM
#24
[QUOTE=Donnachaidh;994570]
Truth be told...at Culloden..brave highlanders were the first to run from the field...and the Irish....well they fought till the end and were treated as prisoners of war.
Curious to know your source for this scurrilous statement.
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1st July 11, 06:59 AM
#25
 Originally Posted by ErikGarrett
A bit unrelated, my father trained with the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, historically the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders, back in the late '70s. He was Third US Inf Div at the time and of the 7th "Cotton Balers" Infantry Regiment. He told me a story of some kilted lads who took great offense to his and two other "Yanks" singing "The Battle of New Orleans" while drunk, his regimental song. Turns out the Kilted Highlander's unit lineage came from the 93rd who's forefathers were the ones who had "ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go." He claims he owes his life and subsequently mine to a Scottish Sergeant Major who showed up just in time.
Ironically, the 7th US Infantry living history organization has worked with officers of the Argylls to commemorate the regiment's participation in the Battle of Chalmette. The site is one of a handfull where the flag of a combatant force flies on American soil. The 93rd living history group has some pictures of modern-day Argyll officers laying a wreath at Chalmette.
The 93rd, btw, did manage to break Line Jackson and briefly capture an American redoubt before being forced to retreat. Had they been reinforced, it would have been Jackson's dirtyshirts running through the bushes. 
I didn't realize the Cottonbalers had adopted the Jimmy Driftwood song; I know "The Girl I Left Behind Me" is the regimental march.
T.
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1st July 11, 10:50 PM
#26
 Originally Posted by R.S.Buff
This is the black selvedge mark at the bottom of the kilt. They were woven selvedge to selvedge so there is no band at the top. The Key Pattern Book had the coarse kilt width at 22". Is that correct Peter?
The 1819 counts for all the military cloth don't actually specify the width for coarse kilt settings. The width of Fine Kilts is given as 21 1/2" but based on the Coarse Kilt setting I calculate it would have been 21-22" too.
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4th July 11, 04:39 PM
#27
Curious to know your source for this scurrilous statement.
Hello Azrobert..
Scurrilous, my statement was not.
When, as a young student at St Andrews, I remember my Scottish history teacher being a stickler for facts and holding romantic fantasy as truly repugnant.
Culloden.
the end of the Catholic dream of a new era for the Stewart dynasty.
Culloden.
the end of tyrannical rule of self imposed masters of common born Scots.
Culloden.
the end of the feudal system in highland Scotland.
Culloden..the gateway to freedom.
My old teacher was exceedingly grumpy when it came to the lauding of hielan' hogwash.
The Irish, hardly mentioned by those who would esteem themselves as being purveyors of Scottish history.
Read a wee bit more into the role of the 'Wild Geese" on Drumossie Muir.
However...perhaps Arizonian historians of Scottish history are privy to a truth that eluded my auld Don.
jist a wee doc an' dorus....cheers to you and yours
G
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