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    Kyle,

    Thank you for these photos. Like John (English Bloke), I'm curious about approximate date when these pictures were taken. I'm guessing the color photos are post-1960. What's interesting (striking?) to me is how little the kilt attire has changed from then to now. I mean, men's ties and coat lapels have grown and shrunk, but these gentlemen could have been photographed yesterday, based simply on what they're wearing. At least that's my impression, given my recent introduction and limited exposure to the world of kilts.

    How has kilt wear evolved since then? Have they gone though a long-short-long cycle similar to women's skirts?

    It's also interesting to note what others have seen in the photos. I, too, was drawn to the kids sitting on the high wall and vehicles parked in the background. I also noticed the women's hairstyles.

    Again, thanks for sharing.

    Have a safe Memorial Day weekend as we remember our brothers and sisters who died serving our country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dea3369 View Post
    I mean, men's ties and coat lapels have grown and shrunk, but these gentlemen could have been photographed yesterday, based simply on what they're wearing.
    Precisely!

    Quote Originally Posted by dea3369 View Post
    Have a safe Memorial Day weekend as we remember our brothers and sisters who died serving our country.
    I agree, a heartfelt "thank you" to all my brothers and sisters who have served, and let's remember those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for their country - both here in the USA, as well as in the UK, Australia, France, and Canada - our brothers-in-arms. Semper Fidelis.

    Cheers,
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    Do you have captions? I'd love to put names to faces--not that I'd know anyone. I thought for a minute that the fifth photo down, the man on the right, was Jock Scott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrus View Post
    Do you have captions? I'd love to put names to faces--not that I'd know anyone. I thought for a minute that the fifth photo down, the man on the right, was Jock Scott.
    You can see the captions at this website:

    http://www.thepipingcentre.co.uk/mus...s-photographs/
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    I love the outfit on the right of this photo.

    (It's also seen worn in a few of the B&W photos, as well).

    Why?

    For one, he's wearing the Ogilvie of Airlie aka Drummond of Strathallan tartan, which I have always admired.
    For another, he's wearing a patterned tweed Argyle jacket, which I also admire.
    In addition, he's wearing a wonderful mask sporran - European badger, not overly taxidermied like a lot of American made ones seen today. I would LOVE to have one like that.
    To top it all off, he's wearing hand knit hose with a lovely thistle pattern on the cuff.

    What's not to like? This guy has my style all over him! :-)

    Do we know who he is?
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    The first thing that comes to mind is that the more things change, the more they stay the same. To add fuel for the rabble to comment on, see how the flashes are positioned on the calf. Some are close to the shin while others are on the side of the calf. Sounds trivial but, with those of us who were military, keeping the "Gig" line straight.
    Also, the wearing and shaping of the Balmoral's, some are shaped like a Beret while others look like they are ballanceing a plate on their head. No insult but, the best way I could think of describing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidB80911 View Post
    The first thing that comes to mind is that the more things change, the more they stay the same. To add fuel for the rabble to comment on, see how the flashes are positioned on the calf. Some are close to the shin while others are on the side of the calf. Sounds trivial but, with those of us who were military, keeping the "Gig" line straight.
    Also, the wearing and shaping of the Balmoral's, some are shaped like a Beret while others look like they are ballanceing a plate on their head. No insult but, the best way I could think of describing it.
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    Flashes were originally tied garters, David, so if it is most comfortable for the wearer to contort and tie them left and right, then good for him; when he's older that will change . Most of us tie them a bit forward of that and sometimes fairly close to the shin. No rule in TCHD except don't tie them on the inside.

    I wouldn't pay too much attention to how the Balmorals are worn in these pics because they all have some age on them. About the only time you will see Balmorals worn in the Highlands today is when there's a parade and the wearers are in it, or if the occasion calls for them to show their one, two or three feathers and it's not good to stick them in the ear.

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    Thanks for posting those! So many familiar faces, familiar though in most cases I've never met the men. Wee Donald! John MacLellan!

    My first bagpipe album was John MacLellan's Folkways album, and I learned how to play from Donald MacLeod's ("Wee Donald" and you can see why) set of thick stiff black plastic records which came with his Tutor.

    And my heart was struck in a bittersweet way when I saw the photo of a young Evan MacRae, our head instructor at Piping School. I met him in the early 1980s when he had just retired from LONG service in the Army, most of it as Pipe Major of the Cameron Highlanders. He was their PM during the rather short period in which they wore the Royal Stewart tartan.

    Most of these people were fluent Gaelic speakers, perhaps the last generation in which most of the leading players were such.

    About the fashions worn, well you're seeing the kilt worn by people raised in Gaelic-speaking areas who have worn the kilt their entire lives, the true home of Highland Dress.

    Everything is lovely.

    What I don't see, happily, is men wearing belts under their waistcoats such as has become so common today, especially in Kilt Hire and "tat" shops. Heck one gent there isn't wearing a belt tho he isn't wearing a waistcoat, a man after my own heart.

    Interesting that Evan MacRae is wearing ordinary shoes with his Full Dress. Ordinarily he would be wearing buckled brogues with this mode of dress. (An old regimental tradition in the Cameron Highlanders was a reluctance to have their pipers in spats, so that they dressed in full hose and buckled brogues in orders of dress which would call for spats in other Highland regiments.)

    This photo of Pipe Major Evan MacRae, taken in the 1950s, has got to be one of the most oft-reproduced piper photos of all time.



    It's been turned into needlepoint



    And a rubber stamp



    And a tea towel, with a feather bonnet stuck on his head!! (Needless to say, the pipers of the Queens Own Cameron Highlanders didn't wear such.)



    And even reproduced in three dimensions, as in this ceramic!

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    Oh and here is a group of competing pipers at Oban, 1950. More lovely tweed, more Army gents!



    And no white hose! Oatmeal, Lovat Blue, Lovat Green, &c.
    Last edited by OC Richard; 26th May 12 at 04:34 AM.
    Proud Mountaineer from the Highlands of West Virginia; son of the Revolution and Civil War; first Europeans on the Guyandotte

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