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18th June 12, 08:53 PM
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Had a three great grandfather from Maryland that served and was given a land grant in Indiana for that service. Had another multi-great grandfather who lived in upstate New York and when British troops marched past on the road in front of his farmhouse he got out his musket and fired into their ranks. The British unit turned and killed him very very dead. Fortunately his son, whom I'm descended from, was not hit. I readily identify with such impulsiveness...must have been genetic.
I'm surprised there's not more interest in the War of 1812.
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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19th June 12, 05:17 AM
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[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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19th June 12, 07:11 AM
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 Originally Posted by McClef
Thanks for the photos, Brock's Monument at the site of the Battle of Queeston Heights is an icon of Canadian history. Brock's name is known to every Canadian schoolchild as the saviour of Upper Canada for his bold action and decisiveness in the face of the American invasion. He was a General in the regular British army but the story of Queenston Heights has a Scottish connection as well. Brock was killed early in the battle during an assault on the American position o the Heights. Battlefield command fell to his Aid-De-Camp John Macdonell who though born in Scotland, emigrated to Canada as a small boy, and led Canadian militia units. He was later also killed in the battle after a brave assault on fortified American positions. While Brock's name is associated with countless roads, schools, public buildings even a University across Canada, sadly Macdonell is not remembered, though he is also buried at the base of the monument with Brock.
However, his story is not un-sung as the folk singer Stan Rogers remembered him in his song MacDonell on the Heights in which the chorus laments "not one in ten thousand knows your name".
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19th June 12, 10:25 AM
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After the War of 1812 there was the almost war from the 'Pig incident' in the San Juan Islands. If that spark had flared, the Civil War may have had a different conclusion.
Scotland is only 1/5 the size of Montana, but Scotland has over 3,000 castles and Montana has none.
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19th June 12, 04:28 PM
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 Originally Posted by Baldybrown
After the War of 1812 there was the almost war from the 'Pig incident' in the San Juan Islands. If that spark had flared, the Civil War may have had a different conclusion.
Yes, indeed. A certain Captain George Pickett was in charge of the original U.S. Army detachment sent to San Juan Island as things heated up.
"Touch not the cat bot a glove."
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war of 1812 has special significance for those of us in the new orleans area. though the treaty was signed, brits had a major defeat by jackson, jean lafitte et al, thanks to poor lines of communication... and fog ... and underestimating the dogged determination of an american rabble.
Last edited by opositive; 6th July 12 at 08:09 PM.
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19th June 12, 09:01 PM
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All other social and political considerations set aside for a moment there is a lasting and painfully regrettable upshot of that war which ALL Americans must be reminded of from time to time. For the first time the US Government enacted a law whereby they punished all achievement, innovation, productive endevour by its citizens. No longer was commerse and trade taxed via sales taxes, levies on import and export, and property taxes but ALL income was subject to confiscatory taxation. The government later went on to impliment the automatic withholding of income taxes. I feel sure that if all americans had to file a return and pay thier taxes by actually writing a check to the government every year or quarter we would have a much more efficient and equitable system.
Those of you who are citizens of the other participating parties in the war of 1812 can with certainty claim a huge victory. At least it wasnt an event for which you have to pay in perpetuity.
Of course, we DID do pretty good with that little real estate deal with Napolean.
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19th June 12, 10:38 PM
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The Nancy was a schooner in the fur trade on the Great Lakes and was berthed at MacIntosh’s wharf at Moy (now called Windsor) when the War of 1812 broke out between the United States and Great Britain. Moved for protection to Amherstburg, the ship was taken by the commander of the British garrison, Lieutenant-Colonel St. George, as a transport vessel. She was sunk in 1814 and the North West Compoany was recompensed 2200 pounds for her destruction.

Subsequently, her two brass cannon were retreived by Angus Mackintosh and settled in at his estate of Moy in Inverness-shire when he inherited the chiefship from his brother. Today, they are mounted on the garden wall of the new Moy Hall facing Loch Moy. Here's one of them.
Last edited by ThistleDown; 20th June 12 at 02:16 AM.
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20th June 12, 04:59 PM
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oooops!!! RULES....Mods!!!!! Not cool.....
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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20th June 12, 05:56 PM
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 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
oooops!!! RULES....Mods!!!!! Not cool.....
Steady as it goes, lads. We are all friends, here.
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