the Short Modern Kilt

[Kiltsnquilts]

Pardon me, but isn't the "natural waist" where a traditional kilt sits anyway? Compared to the "jeans waist" where my Levi jeans sit?

Well that depends how high you like to wear your jeans! The belly button is the natural waist and a kilt will usually sit about 4-6cm above that at the bottom of the rib cage. Obviously, there are always exceptions to the rule. Most guys I know would not wear their jeans at their natural waist (belly button).

[Celtic Patriot]

I've seen plenty of the youth wear their kilts at the hips, making the bottom below their knees so it looks more like a DRESS! When you approach them on the proper way to wear a Kilt, they ignore you or get angry. . . So, either they are not "enlightened", or they intend to make a new fashion statement, like how the punkers are wearing them.I found some very affordable Kilts on eBay, but they are at 24". that is the minimal I will wear, as the backside rides up when sitting and I am not comfortable sitting on a public chair on my bare --ss! https://www.ebay.com/itm/182747103869

[OC Richard]

I've seen plenty of the youth wear their kilts at the hips, making the bottom below their knees...

Yes that's the bane of civilian Pipe Bands. You give people a proper kilt but they shove it down around their hips like they would their jeans and this is the result



There's two problems that result:

1) the bottom of the kilt is too low,
and
2) there's a gap between the top of the kilt and the bottom of the waistcoat.

Both things could be solved by wearing the kilt higher: two problems, one solution.

But instead they solve the problem in a more complicated way:

1) they have somebody hem their kilt shorter,
and
2) they order super-long waistcoats.

There's an American firm J Higgins who is the main supplier for Pipe Band equipment for many pipe bands here in the western US. One of the things they began doing is offering longer, and then even longer, vests for pipe band people due to this very problem.

The last vest I ordered from them, they ignored the length I specified and sent me a vest that's far too long (because of my height, 6'3" they assumed I needed an absurdly long waistcoat). Next time I'll lie about my height (you can't leave that field blank when you order).

[James Hood]

Reading this thread...

...a bit amusing to this reader and a wry thought; the more something (in this instance, a [vs. "The"] kilt gets wider wearing (and exposure to larger numbers of different-subculture, non-strictly-traditional viewers-thinkers)...

...the more "natural - uncontrolled - evolutionary" variations in wearing thereof, will be pondered, tried, produced, encountered.

Even thirty years ago, who could have even fantasized (perhaps some of us, still, in horror-lite) at the number of variations would develop and worldwide-exist, in a garment which pretty much stayed unchanged-ish, for several centuries.

"Utility" kilts in canvas, etc., leather, "punk," multi-solid colour, Steampunk, camouflage....