Stupid is as stupid does. :oops:

**phil h** · 19th November 04, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Jimmy Carbomb

Phil's kilt is done... and it's NOT an easy fix guys!

Stillwater kilts makes them in a manner that's VERY different from anything we see. To widen the front apron properly, it takes me 4 hours to do. FOUR HOURS for an apron!

We'll see Phil's review once he gets it back, but atleast it looks more "normal".

IF you are thinking about buying one and making the alterations yourself, just be REAL sure that you're VERY good with the needle and thread.

"JIMMY CARBOMB FOR PRESIDENT" !!!!

**Jimmy Carbomb** · 19th November 04, 08:28 PM

I can tell you this right now... if Stillwater Kilts would widen the front apron, taper the edges, and make the "standard" length 21.5 inches... I would bet that they would be rich in NO TIME!

That's the ONLY thing that keeps them from being the best value for the dollar. Right now, the aprons are that bad... in comparison with the other kilts out there. They're way too narrow, way too awkward, and just not right. It's an easy fix that they really should consider.

Thay're KILLER on the available tartans, the pleats, the amount of material, and the price.

Come on Stillwater Kilts... this is just smart business!

BY THE WAY... if you want a comparison of the Irish National Tartans from Stillwater and Scotland, there's a pic in my Gallery of the two side-by-side. I took the Stillwater totally apart and made it into a ladies' kilt. The tartans are quite different in color, width, and presentation.

**Mr. Kilt** · 19th November 04, 10:14 PM

Wow, that IS quite a difference between the two!

**mcnice** · 20th November 04, 05:35 AM

i got also a stillwater kilt, but then i ordered it from get shirty in edinburgh. a shop i don t want to be reminded as they sent me the kilt to big and it then needed plenty of emails and months (!) to get my kilt in the right size.

my mother worked also on the apron, made a fringe and i m actually waiting for another alteration.
i was wondering with that kilt, as they have the pleats hemmed just a couple of inch down from the top end. not as it would be correct down to the seat. so she will hem them. is this not also a deficit of these kilts?

but aside the necessary alterations they are good kilts, but also they have the bottom edge pleated to the inside...
so what i learnt ( for all those guys having not a cheep tailor) is spent the double of price and get a better kilt. cuase with these alterations it would come to same cost..