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15th August 06, 04:42 PM
#31
 Originally Posted by pbpersson
... I'm already surprised to hear so many agreeing with the concept that the kilt should be reduced to a "party-only garment" as opposed to an acceptable alternative to trousers...
This is a non sequitur.
At what point do you deduce that those who do not wear kilts to work somehow believe that they should be worn only at partys??
I've worn my kilts damnear everywhere - including working trade shows, but I'm sorry... I refuse to inject that element into the everyday office environment for various reasons. That does not mean that I am against other people doing it!
You know... It's all too easy I think to get caught up in the fun and challenge of bucking convention but not everyone that straps on a kilt wants to take the issue to the edge. But if that's what you want to do, go for it!
Fear Not! Both trousers and kilts have been around for a very long time and neither one is going to be "reduced" in rank anytime soon.
Relax and enjoy the experience... it's not a crusade.
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15th August 06, 05:57 PM
#32
At what point do you deduce that those who do not wear kilts to work somehow believe that they should be worn only at partys??
Thank you, Blu. For those of us who wear our kilts for heritage reasons, many of the events we attend are not "parties", but serious events such as church parades (the Kirkin' service) for St. Andrew's Day, Burns Suppers (which have a serious element to them) and in my own case, to various educational programs to schools, churces, community and civic organizations, etc. Hardly a "party" venue.
I really don't understand Phil's fear here:
This is my fear:
If everyone thinks that a kilt should not be worn at work let's say that it should only be worn for "special" ocassions like maybe a trip to the local pub or a highland gathering rather than a valid fashion choice for all situations.
If wearing a kilt is about "freedom", then those of us who wear kilts for our heritage, families, etc. are "free" to wear our kilts when and where we want to. If you want to wear a kilt all the time, Phil, then I'm all for you. But please show us the same respect. Just because we choose to not wear out kilts every day does not make us less a kilt-wearer.
Todd
Last edited by macwilkin; 15th August 06 at 06:08 PM.
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15th August 06, 06:38 PM
#33
I think the key thing here is that Raphael chose what he wanted to do... not wear a kilt to work. HE made the decision.
It wasn't made FOR him. That makes all the difference in the world.
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15th August 06, 06:41 PM
#34
I'm facing much the same conundrum about wearing my beloved kimonos out and about. I'd love to wear them to work every day, but I work as a delivery driver which involves a lot of manual labor and a kimono (or a kilt) just wouldn't be practical.
Now if I had an office job, things would be entirely different. I already get odd looks for wearing them to every type of recreational and celebrational event possible.
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15th August 06, 06:46 PM
#35
kilt tyranny
 Originally Posted by bubba
Raph, you do what works best for you. Personally I don't see wearing kilts as a cause or crusade, it's clothing. On the job you wear whatever clothing is required for safety and/or best job performance. After all, your employer pays you to do a job and giving less than your best for whatever reason just isn't right.
Yes, Bubba. Yours is the statement of a truly liberated man. Sometimes it seems as if there is a kilt tyranny here as well.
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15th August 06, 06:50 PM
#36
I fully support your decision, . You have made a wise choice, and should be commend for making your work performance the prority.
I do wear a kilt-full time. It's simply my choice of daily attire. But doing so full-time is certainly not for everyone, nor should it be.
Darrell
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15th August 06, 07:09 PM
#37
Tsk, tsk, Todd. How many times do you have to be told that the practice wearing a single, tartan kilt to honor your forebears doesn't count? 
Nae mair than a wee reveler, air ye? Gae oan wey it, ye oanly wear th' plaidie whaur ye're goan tae be hae'in' a pairty. Yer ain o' th' laddies fae th' ruckus doon th' way, Ah ken who ye air. Nae doot blooter'd fae aw the revelin' ye've been oop tae. Ye need aboot a hunnert air twa mair plaidies in yer cupboard, then Ah'll noo yer fer real.
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15th August 06, 07:38 PM
#38
 Originally Posted by Mike1
Nae mair than a wee reveler, air ye? Gae oan wey it, ye oanly wear th' plaidie whaur ye're goan tae be hae'in' a pairty. Yer ain o' th' laddies fae th' ruckus doon th' way, Ah ken who ye air. Nae doot blooter'd fae aw the revelin' ye've been oop tae. 
This is bad because?
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15th August 06, 07:51 PM
#39
 Originally Posted by Red Lioness
... Now if I had an office job, things would be entirely different. I already get odd looks for wearing them to every type of recreational and celebrational event possible...
For the most part though, we don't typically think of women as being particularly restricted in their choice of attire. Some choose to self regulate but others know no bounds.
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15th August 06, 09:51 PM
#40
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
I really don't understand Phil's fear here:
I must apologize, I had a really bad day at the office and this thread just hit me at the wrong time.
My dream is that someday all men will have the OPTION and the FREEDOM to wear contemporary (not Scottish) kilts when they want and where they want without being fired or laughed at or called a cross-dresser.
It is my dream that someday contemporary (not Scottish) kilts will be hanging in the men's department next to jeans, shorts, and Dockers and it will be a fashion choice for men who think as I do that they are more comfortable and fun.
It is my dream that someday men will be able to wear kilts to the office without fearing the loss of their jobs or the destruction of their career.
Now.....I don't think any of these things will happen in my lifetime and perhaps they will never happen in the future but it's a nice thought anyway. People have told me to stop dreaming impossible dreams and just wear my kilt where I can and when I can and that's what I have started doing.
Anyway, today at the office some things happened and I was quite upset and thought the world was ending and then I logged on here and saw all these guys saying, "Yes, you're right, it was silly to think that kilts should ever be worn to work! What were we thinking? Let's forget that whole thing, they really don't belong in a serious business setting after all!" Well....that was how I read it at least.
That was sort of why I flew off the handle. Again, I'm sorry - I was over reacting because it just hit me at a bad time. Of course everyone can wear their kilts when ever they want and MY DREAMS will probably never come to pass anyway. I think that's why they call them dreams. 
....and yes I'm still sort of in a bad mood but I'm getting better a little at a time. 
Phil
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