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7th March 07, 10:18 AM
#1
Is my black RKilt a kilt or a skirt? Non conventional pleating, shiny metal hardware, unusual aprons, big floppy pockets, certainly not a big hank of cloth loosely pleated and belted around my middle. It is not even tartan. Not even wool. It is hemp.
Yet my black RKilt gets more comments (compliments) than ANY other kilt I own.
Slippery slope. If you go by the standards used to judge the Tripp kilt and say it is not a kilt, then what I am wearing isn't a kilt either.
And I know you didn't just tell me I was wearing a skirt. 
Meh, even if you did, that's ok. We can sit down and talk about it over a nice glass of Woodchuck.
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7th March 07, 10:32 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by Dreadbelly
Is my black RKilt a kilt or a skirt?
Which side does it fasten on?
It don't mean a thing, if you aint got that swing!!
'S Rioghal Mo Dhream - a child of the mist
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7th March 07, 10:30 AM
#3
Come on Dread. That's not even a close comparison. Robert is a true craftsman that puts a ton of detail and work into his kilts. He has just added his own flair to make his product stand out from the next kiltmaker.
The Tripp "kilt" is a mass produced skirt for the goth community, it is not meant to even be in the same class as a kilt. Look at the other stuff sold by the vendor to put it into context. This looks like it takes more influence from the punk pants of days gone by than the kilt, which makes sense for the market it is geared towards.
The word kilt is used way to often and most times it is not used correctly. The perfect example is in the Sears catalogue. There is a terry towel wrap for men to use after a shower. It is called a kilt in the book, so does that mean it is part of the not traditional grouping?...........Not a chance. The word kilt is used as a marketing tool to try and make people think they are buying something they are not. This makes them feel better as a kilt is a manly garment with a rich history, not just something interesting in a book.
Yes, some people may upgrade from the Tripp "kilt", but not likely. However if someone wants to wear the Tripp "kilt" go for it. It shouldn't matter if someone else doesn't like it. I would never wear the loud MacLeod and have expressed that, but no one is getting their undies in a bunch at my opinion there, so why should they here.
I think we need to respect each other's opinions and agree to disagree, as too many people have tried to cloud over the definition of a kilt for their own confidence in the past few years. It's an arguement that can not be won, so is there really any point in going in circles?.
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7th March 07, 11:01 AM
#4
 Originally Posted by Colin
Yes, some people may upgrade from the Tripp "kilt", but not likely.
But at least the Tripp 'Kilt' wearers are not going to go almighty about their clothing of choice.
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7th March 07, 11:06 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Raphael
But at least the Tripp 'Kilt' wearers are not going to go almighty about their clothing of choice.
You're right, that is why it is a totally different market and beast. However the Tripp kilt wearers will likely move onto another clothing choice as new options appear. Let's not turn this into a Tradionalists vs Goth debate as that is pointless. Without the traditionalists (and I assume I am being lumped in that group nowadays) getting "almighty " about their kilts and keeping that traditon alive, than I highly doubt any of us would be wearing kilts today, as they would have died out generations ago.
Wear it or don't wear it, it doesn't affect my life in anyway.
Last edited by Colin; 7th March 07 at 11:14 AM.
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7th March 07, 11:17 AM
#6
I don't always wear the same pair of pants.....I don't always wear the same type of shirt. Isn't it cool I have all sorts of clothing options???
My Tripp kilt is just another part of my wardrobe. Like Hamish had said about being able to find places in his wardrobe from UK's, to trads, they are all kilts and they all have their appropriate place.
To me my Tripp is just another option. I wouldn't wear it to work, however the look works perfectly when I'm out on the town.
here's a pic of the back of mine.

I wouldn't even try to compare it to some other kilts, it is what it is, and it works for me.
cheers,
Cloves
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7th March 07, 10:12 PM
#7
I bought one for my son. Do I consider it a kilt? No. It is a kilt like garment, in my opinion. My son wanted it because it's "cool" and the other kids won't make fun of it. He also wants a solid black wool kilt. I just bought him a Nightstalker SWK. If it means that I won't be getting my Fraser red to get my son kilted, and wearing kilts more often, I'll do without. I felt like the Tripp kilt was a launching point for other kilts. I was hoping to have the money for my Fraser before My Natal day in April. Probably won't happen. But, Gunny will be in an ugly green kilt like garment come St. Patties Day.
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8th March 07, 07:07 AM
#8
[QUOTE=Beuth Sim;341444] Do I consider it a kilt? No. It is a kilt like garment, in my opinion. QUOTE]
To those who feel this way, a question: what exactly makes this NOT a kilt? The pockets and other trappings? The non-woolen fabric? If that's the case, then in your mind Utilikilts, Freedom Kilts, Union Kilts, NeoKilts, etc. etc., are all just "kilt-like garments?"
That's fine with me (my kilts are tartan wool traditional types), I'm just seeking to understand folks' thinking on this, not to prolong the silly "what is really a kilt" debate....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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7th March 07, 10:37 AM
#9
Colin, my whole point was, slippery slope. Where does somebody draw the line? If it has aprons in the front, and pleats in the back, when does a kilt stop being a kilt so long as it meets the basic standards of what a kilt is? The same argument being used to attack the Tripp kilt could be used to attack my RKilt. I know they are two completely different beasts.
I only said something because some of our esteemed members own these. I wouldn't want somebody reading over somebody's shoulder, catching a glimpse of this, and being put off of the idea of the alternate MUG concept.
That's all. I hope we can all agree to that. Common ground.
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7th March 07, 10:39 AM
#10
 Originally Posted by Dreadbelly
I only said something because some of our esteemed members own these. I wouldn't want somebody reading over somebody's shoulder, catching a glimpse of this, and being put off of the idea of the alternate MUG concept.
and that is whay that discussion is on an entirely different forum
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