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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    Mornin' Ted!

    Clansman's badges are jewelry in the same way that a silver circlet set with agate or caringom and worn on the bonnet is jewelry. To be sure they have a familial significance, and are governed by rules concerning pattern and shape, but they are items of jewelry none the less.

    Because this is X Marks the Scot, not X Marks the Sumpthenelz, I think it is reasonable (and laudable on your part) to play by the rules. That said, strictly speaking the rules only apply to Scots and Clanfolk. Those outside the tartan tent have a bit more latitude in "bonnet jewelry".

    Whimsy is something all to often overlooked, and if things are done within the "spirit" of the rules then there is no reason why a fella can't have a bit of fun.

    Lots of non-Scottish, non-clan affiliated individuals and organizations use the buckle and strap devise, usually associated with the clansman's badge, and there is no reason why you could not do the same. Your friends would know what you are doing, and if you pitched up at a highland games 99% of those attending would just assume it was a "clan badge" and let it go at that-- if anyone asked, and one or two might-- you fill them in and go on your merry way.

    So, for my money, there is nothing wrong, inherently evil, immoral, or evening fattening, about the individual use of the "buckle and strap". I would, however, speak out against the use of a circlet surrounding a devise as that is a heraldic item unique to an armiger.

    Anyhow, what were you thinking of doing?

    Cheers!
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    Thank you. In part, I was just looking through things I already have to see if something could be adapted to a badge. It seems like the circlet would rule out just about all coins or coin-like tokens.

    The other thought was to put a symbol or depiction of something I am connected to on a disk of the right size. It seems like other members are using all kinds of things for cap badges.
    Thanks everybody for your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Crocker View Post
    Thank you. In part, I was just looking through things I already have to see if something could be adapted to a badge. It seems like the circlet would rule out just about all coins or coin-like tokens.
    If you were to place a coin in some sort of circular frame, it wouldn't look like the "crest" within a "circlet" that identifies an armiger, so there wouldn't be any sort of heraldic "problem".
    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Crocker View Post
    The other thought was to put a symbol or depiction of something I am connected to on a disk of the right size. It seems like other members are using all kinds of things for cap badges.
    Thanks everybody for your help.
    Generally speaking a more-or-less sold disc wouldn't be confused with the circlet. What would cause confusion would be if the disc was open in the centre, with some sort of device in the middle that, to the casual observer, would look like a "crest".

    Placing a gold USMC EGA on a red disc (with or without "Sempre Fi" along the edge of the disc) doesn't transgress any heraldic regulation as it obviously isn't a crest. But, if you put the EGA inside a circlet (that is a disc which is open in the centre) then you have created a "look-alike" situation, and that should be avoided.

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    Thank youfor explaining that, MacMillan of Rathdown.
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