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25th February 09, 09:43 AM
#31
 Originally Posted by Panache
Interesting. I think Sandford had mentioned previously using a black argyll (with silver buttons) with a matching lower cut three button waistcoat with dress shirt and bow tie before.
With the exception of the Montrose, all the other formal jackets for highland attire have tails.
Standard formal jackets have a wider range of lengths.
Cheers
Jamie
I may be wrong and Sandford must speak for himself, but I doubt that he was talking about wearing a black, silver buttoned argyll WITH BOW TIE, during the day. In the evening perhaps. I will add "during the day" to my previous contribution though.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 25th February 09 at 09:50 AM.
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25th February 09, 10:12 AM
#32
 Originally Posted by The Unkilted Heathen
The jist I think I am getting here is that it's not technicaly correct to wear a pc to a daytime wedding or before 6 pm but I'd everyone else is go with the flow so to speak
Jordan
As you say, not technically correct. It really depends on the company you find yourself in. If you know most people then you will be comfortable in their company whatever you wear and will probably know how most of them will be dressed. If you are with mostly strangers, however, you don't want to stick out like a sore thumb so knowing the correct way to dress means you can be comfortable in any company. That really is the whole idea behind it, for your peace of mind and not for some rigid rules.
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25th February 09, 11:17 AM
#33
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I may be wrong and Sandford must speak for himself, but I doubt that he was talking about wearing a black, silver buttoned argyll WITH BOW TIE, during the day. In the evening perhaps. I will add "during the day" to my previous contribution though.
Jock,
I misunderstood. It would seem an ascot rather than a black bow tie would be most appropriate for a morning / early afternoon wedding (groom and groomsmen).
Thinking about this further, are regular bow ties (not black satin ones designed for formal evening wear) worn with Highland Attire in Scotland?
It seems that a standard bowtie would be acceptable for a guest to wear with a tweed agryll.
Cheers
Jamie
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25th February 09, 12:02 PM
#34
This is the outfit I wore for my niece's wedding
Scotland the Brave kilt & Argyll Jacket
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25th February 09, 12:36 PM
#35
 Originally Posted by Panache
Jock,
I misunderstood. It would seem an ascot rather than a black bow tie would be most appropriate for a morning / early afternoon wedding (groom and groomsmen).
Thinking about this further, are regular bow ties (not black satin ones designed for formal evening wear) worn with Highland Attire in Scotland?
It seems that a standard bowtie would be acceptable for a guest to wear with a tweed agryll.
Cheers
Jamie
Do you know Jamie I was wondering about that myself. By standard bow tie, I assume you mean the spotted/club/regimental/university/college/old school type. I was racking my brains to see if I could recall seeing one worn with the kilt, during the day and I could not. I can't see why it should not be done though, it just seems that it isn't! Perhaps it may be regarded as just too English for most Scots to wear?
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25th February 09, 01:37 PM
#36
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Do you know Jamie I was wondering about that myself. By standard bow tie, I assume you mean the spotted/club/regimental/university/college/old school type. I was racking my brains to see if I could recall seeing one worn with the kilt, during the day and I could not. I can't see why it should not be done though, it just seems that it isn't! Perhaps it may be regarded as just too English for most Scots to wear?
It is a point to ponder. I've never worn a bow tie with a tweed (daywear) jacket and the kilt, and I frequently wear bow ties with other dress. I've just never seen anyone wearing a bow tie with the kilt, except with evening dress. I don't know why not, but Jock's guess about it being "too English" is as good as any!
Sandford
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25th February 09, 01:41 PM
#37
Well, there goes the plan to get a brown bow tie for my daywear outfit. No daywear bow ties in Highland attire.
I guess it should be a four-in-hand tie. Can an ascot or cravat be worn with daywear instead?
Last edited by Bugbear; 25th February 09 at 04:17 PM.
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25th February 09, 01:43 PM
#38
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
I may be wrong and Sandford must speak for himself, but I doubt that he was talking about wearing a black, silver buttoned argyll WITH BOW TIE, during the day. In the evening perhaps. I will add "during the day" to my previous contribution though.
Jamie commented:
Originally Posted by Panache
"Interesting. I think Sandford had mentioned previously using a black argyll (with silver buttons) with a matching lower cut three button waistcoat with dress shirt and bow tie before. "
I don't think I would have recommended wearing this rig during the day, Jamie. I most likely somewhere mentioned the appropriateness of wearing a black argyll jacket with silver buttons, and a "regular" waistcoat with 5 or 6 buttons, and a four-in-hand necktie. With an evening waistcoat ( the ones with 3 or 4 buttons ) the black argyll could do double duty if need be, worn with a black bow tie and a dress/formal shirt!
Sandford
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25th February 09, 02:38 PM
#39
This is a test of the Emergency Thread Hijack System
This is only a test.
I had to see what the heck a Four in Hand tie was, and it turns out that that's the way I've been tying my tie (the 2 times every 5 years that I wear one) ever since my high school prom. Here's a pretty good website about various necktie knots.
http://www.tie-a-tie.net/
End of Hijack. We now return you to your normaly scheduled thread...
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25th February 09, 04:02 PM
#40
Um, I ment four-in-hand tie, as in, long neck tie and not the four-in-hand knot. And I'm glad this came up because I had been planning to get a brown wool bow tie to go with my daywear outfit. I had absolutely no idea at all that bow ties were not to be worn with kilt daywear.
It saves me from making another mistake. I was asking if a cravat or something like that could be worn because I don't want to make a mistake in that direction, as well.
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