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    Re: Feathers in your cap and in your path

    Quote Originally Posted by pugcasso View Post
    I haven't noticed that specifically ... is there any more information about that?

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    I have heard about the legal status of owning eagle feathers (I think this type of restriction apples in Canada as well).

    I wonder if that law only applies to eagles of North American habitat. Maybe the Scottish feathers used are from the 'Golden Eagle' native to Scotland?
    I believe that CITES ( Convention on Illegal Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora ) covers birds of prey... Which eagles would be... If the country you're in subscribes to CITES then I suspect you could expect problems

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    Re: Feathers in your cap and in your path

    Quote Originally Posted by ThistleDown View Post
    Bat feathers. Now there would be a collection of immense interest and great value. And certainly would be a feather in the cap of the collector.
    I suppose you could train a pet bat to dangle from the cap badge by it's little hind legs.
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    Re: Feathers in your cap/ crows

    Quote Originally Posted by JSFMACLJR View Post
    Maybe there are bishops somewhere who wear black, but I really can't agree that "bishops wear black." They only do so when celebrating masses of the dead and on Good Friday ( if they follow the older uses ).
    The idea that bishops wear black may come from the medieval chimere. Originally a riding cloak the chimere is now used primarily by bishops in the Anglican communion, some independent Episcopal churches, and by holders of doctorates at certain universities. While for the most part the chimere is scarlet in colour, traditionally it is black for a bishop, with the scarlet version only being used "in convocation". Often it is hard to find a bishop wearing a black chimere these days but if you look hard you can sometimes still see that

    However, I don't think bishops or mitres have anything whatsoever to do with eagle feathers, crows or how they may stand at 45 degree angles to the horizon!

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    Re: Feathers in your cap

    Quote Originally Posted by MacLowlife View Post
    PugC,

    Have you noticed the tendency of crows to stand with their backs at an exact 45 degree angle to the horizon?
    Quote Originally Posted by MacLowlife View Post
    I have an interest in crows, too and I have noticed that they usually stand with their backs at a perfect 45 degree angle, but I can't explain it or add any particular significance.
    Um... Because the horizon is all around us, don't all birds, and all animals including humans, have their backs at a perfect 45 degrees to some point on the horizon at all times? Day and night, 24/7, forever.

    Unless, of course, they are dead and lying on their back, with their feet in the air.

    Or am I misunderstanding you completely?

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    Bats in the belfry, and the LOCAL horizon

    If we are going to be scrupulously honest, the horizon is not a straight line, but a VERY gentle curve. As such, only a curved line is going to be parallel to it and nothing is going to be diagonal (Exactly 45 degrees) or perpendicular (exactly 90 degrees) to it, unless you adopt a small fiction and ignore the curving parts at the ends of some short segment, say, 100 miles or so. If we are going to get sloppy like that, we can agree that sure, somewhere on earth, there is a person whose sporran knob is pointing 45 degrees to/from our selected point in the horizon, just not to the horizon on which he appears.*


    Owing to posture or species-based habit and custom, or maybe just the physical limitations of their bodies, some birds stand more erect- think of cranes and flamingoes, while others' backs more closely follow the (apparent) flatness of the ground- ducks, for instance. Crows hold their backs scrupulously at the 45 degree. We all know that crows are very smart, at least for birds. If you could train a couple of crow acrobats, one could lie on the other one's back and his feet would be exactly parallel to those of his partner. I think such a picture would make a good start on the mystical imagery of the crow back religion, maybe depicted with awestruck or venerating onlookers standing by.

    I am unfamiliar with the ways of magpies and I caution readers to avoid assuming anything about their behavior or stance, be it similar or contrasting to crows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdneEEOskzc Because of the age of this clip, it may not be entirely reliable in every detail, when compared with modern thought and shcolarship.

    As for bishops wearing black, I must admit, the ones I see do generally wear purple shirts. On further reading, I see that bishops of the Roman Catholic Christian church wear a lot of red. At about 10 seconds in, we can view a cinematic bishop in this clip. (Be warned, there is no black visible on the bishop's body.)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsPN8_oSQwg


    But please step back a little. If we are forming a new religion here, we aren't going to borrow some other religion's bishops, are we? [take them in a chess game, perhaps, but not borrow them...] And, so far as I know, the diagonal back crow religion either does not yet exist or it has not existed for very long. In either case, I challenge readers to locate a bishop of any church or religion ( I think I have one in this neighborhood- at least before you get to the perceptible curve of the horizon) and ask if he or she is now or has ever been a member of the diagonal crow back religion.

    Oh, and I have it on good authority that they wear black shoes with their kilts.



    *unless, of course, he is drunk, standing in a windstorm, imitating Fred Astaire, or is someone who grew up on a mountainside and has one leg shorter than the other.
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    Re: Feathers in your cap

    I dunno, but I think I'm seeing a lot of horsefeathers here.
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    Re: Feathers in your cap

    Quote Originally Posted by Chas View Post
    Or am I misunderstanding you completely?

    Regards

    Chas

    Well, obviously, I am misunderstanding you and even more-so now.

    Regards

    Chas

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    Re: Feathers in your cap

    Yep, Crow totem drove MacLowlife mad.
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    Re: Feathers in your cap

    Quote Originally Posted by zazenkilter View Post
    In the United States of America there is a law

    "Eagle feather law
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    For other uses, see Eagle feather (disambiguation).

    The eagle feather law provides many exceptions to federal wildlife laws regarding eagles and other migratory birds to enable Native Americans to continue their traditional practices.

    Under the current language of the eagle feather law, only individuals of certifiable Native American ancestry enrolled in a federally recognized tribe are legally authorized to obtain eagle feathers. Unauthorized persons found with an eagle or its parts in their possession can be fined up to $25,000. The eagle feather law allows for individuals who are adopted members of federally recognized tribes to obtain eagle feathers and eagle feather permits." I hope this will help
    Quite right.
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    Re: Feathers in your cap

    Fire Engines are always red. Why are they always red.......Because the're always Russian!!!!
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