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5th June 06, 04:53 PM
#41
Hi Brian,
Great looking kit. How do make your belted-plaid side pockets so thin
looking? It doesn't appear that you twist them. Do you fold and tuck?
Can you post any pictures from the back, I'd be interested to see how it looks.
thanks,
dave
Last edited by David White; 5th June 06 at 05:10 PM.
Reason: forgot something
Clan Lamont!
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5th June 06, 07:00 PM
#42
 Originally Posted by Woodsheal
MacWage,
I would agree with everything you say, except the use of penannular (means "almost a circle") brooches. They were not used beyond the late Middle Ages, and are thus totally incorrect historically for any of the time=frame belted plaids were worn....
It depends if the intent is historical accuracy, such as in reenactment and (the better) SCA-type thing, or just general wearing. I am not a fan of large or showy jewlery, thus most available brooches are just too much for me (especially with "modern" clothing worn with the BP). A silver or brass penannular looks better (to me) and is functional to hold the top of the BP. Plus, they are almost universally recognized as "Celtic" (thus, "fitting" a kilt/BP, without being "showy").
And "YES!" I do where a BP with modern clothing. It looks fine with a T-shirt, as well as a modern coat and tie. I hace preached in a "Clergy, Black" BP with a "cut-off" black jacket, blue shirt, black tie, silver penannular, off-white hose, blue flashes, and black shoes. When I got home, I removed the jacket and dress shirt and wore a Macbubba "X Marks the Scot" shirt with the same BP, as I watched Nascar.
Before anyone says anything, I know there is no registered "Clergy, Black" tartan! It is made from a batch found?/woven? by an associate of mine. He is also a pastor and that is what he called it. It is very similar to the known "Clergy", but on a black background, with the tight small stripes in royal blue, a broad black area with a gray stripe, and an off-white "border" between the two. It is close enough for me. I LIKE IT ALOT and got a good price for it. This is the the "barely over 3 yards BP" that is in line to become a sewn waist down, as soon as my kilt making skills are good enough. Now, ifI can get enough ministers/priests together to get enough to have it officially woven and to get it rgistered. I don't have any web-pics, otherwise they would be posted. But if anyone is interested, I'll email it to ya.
As for reenactment, I would agree that the penannular is totally incorrect! (that is unless Braveheart is taken as "history" :rolleyes: - Sure, kilts, painted faces and William Wallace existed simultaniously :rolleyes: )
By the way, does anyone know a good source for a less-"over the top" round brooch that would be more accurate for the 17th/18th Centuries, especially that are, relatively, inexpensive?
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6th June 06, 07:37 AM
#43
I think that when the results of the archeological excavations at Culloden
are published they will surprise many folks with the findings
Clan Lamont!
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6th June 06, 07:42 AM
#44
 Originally Posted by MacWage
By the way, does anyone know a good source for a less-"over the top" round brooch that would be more accurate for the 17th/18th Centuries, especially that are, relatively, inexpensive?
Although I can't speak for that specific time and place, you do realize that many times in history, people went for things that were as "over the top" as they could afford. Usually, it was a status symbol to be overly decorated.
We're fools whether we dance or not, so we might as well dance. - Japanese Proverb
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6th June 06, 01:47 PM
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Check out "EL-16" on this page:
http://www.quietpress.com/laterpen.html#el16
It's a copy of an original I've seen in different books. These are usual described as "women's brooches" however....
Brian
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