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7th March 07, 10:56 AM
#1
Basically these are the Wal Mart Utilikilt kilt that people have fretted over here for years (in all honesty, I've only seen the cammo one in person and yes at several celtic festivals).
There are always going to be people here (and elsewhere) that say, "That's not a kilt." to anything that isn't an 8 yard, tartan worsted wool, three buckle wrap made in the Scottish highlands. There are those that are going to say if it is appx knee length, wraps (left over right) and has pleats of somekind it is a kilt.
Wear it, don't wear it. Just deal with it, and as if you don't want anyone commenting on your choice of clothing then lay off of theirs.
Adam
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7th March 07, 10:38 AM
#2
The whole punk and goth thing is about tweaking traditions. That kilt looks pretty tweaked.
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7th March 07, 10:43 AM
#3
Er, no, I didn't mean it that way. Sorry.
Need more coffee.
Kilt wearing is in fact, what I was talking about as alternate MUG concept. The fact that we make a choice to step out of the mold and dare to be a little different. I wouldn't want to deny somebody that. And kilts are lumped in to that whole MUG concept.
I am very sorry for it being poorly worded.
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7th March 07, 11:27 AM
#4
Let me start out by saying that I do appreciate Dread's opinion on the subject and that I really didn't mean for my post to get anyone nailed to the wall in a discussion of opinions of what is a kilt and what is not. However Dread, I have drawn the line, for myself that is, as far as what I believe a kilt to be.
To say that a kilt is only a six yard over the shoulder wrap that doubles as a blanket would be ignoring hundreds of years of the 'little' kilt that we still wear today, be it wool or a modern miracle fabric.
The cut and design of the 'little' kilt was laid out many years before any of us were born and whatever is made to fit that description is a kilt and anything other than that can only be described as "kilt-like" in design but not truly kilts. Men and boys can wear the 'mans' kilt.
If a woman wants to wear a kilt then it's a kilted skirt and no longer can be called a kilt, this again is my own opinion but I offer this to support my opinion; if a woman decides to wear a man's athletic suporter is it still an athletic supporter or has it been perverted to be something else? Is a sporran still a sporran if some enterprising female decides to change the position of where the strap attaches to it and wear it suspended from her shoulder or has it become a purse?
You might want to argue that there would be no good reason for a woman to wear one but why would a woman want to wear a mans kilt when there are kilted skirts made for women? That is my wife asking that one so I can't call it my opinion unless she tells me it's my opinion!
I hope that I have gotten my point across and again, I really didn't mean to get everyone upset because I, personally want to keep the kilt a kilt for generations yet to come and separate these 'kilt like' garments so they will not tarnish our image and the image of the traditional kilt with a garment meant to 'tweak', ( thanks Rigged ), the Scottish history with a hazy line that can't be descerned by those who don't understand Scottish culture or the kilt.
Chris.
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7th March 07, 11:45 AM
#5
Chris, I owe you a drink some time.
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7th March 07, 12:06 PM
#6
My own definition of a kilt is more traditional. Would I call the Tripp a kilt? No. It is too long. It does not fit the criteria. Am I going to stop people from wearing them? No. They can wear a skirt if they want to.
Sorry if that is "rude" or "insensitive", but that is truely how I feel.
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7th March 07, 12:21 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by beloitpiper
? They can wear a skirt if they want to.
Sorry if that is "rude" or "insensitive", but that is truely how I feel.
NOTED!
I'd have your six if the guy you said that to, took a swing!
“Live each season as it passes; breathe the air, taste the fruit, drink the drink, and resign yourself to the influences of each.” H.D. Thoreau
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7th March 07, 12:24 PM
#8
To long? Maybe on short people. On tall folk, they might be dead on. Like a Stillwater with the standard 24 inch drop.
Using that logic, a Stillwater is a skirt too because it is to long on some people.
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7th March 07, 12:30 PM
#9
I only posted the link to that "Kilt" because I thought it was (in my opinion) Ugly, but that's my opinion. If you like that "Kilt" great, if you don't whatever. Too each their own.
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7th March 07, 03:12 PM
#10
 Originally Posted by Dreadbelly
To long? Maybe on short people. On tall folk, they might be dead on. Like a Stillwater with the standard 24 inch drop.
Using that logic, a Stillwater is a skirt too because it is to long on some people.
No, using that logic, people should buy clothes that fit. Stillwater makes 24 inch kilts. If they do not fit you, don't buy them! It would be ridiculous to buy clothes that don't fit.
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