i now join the ranks of RiverKilt

[Rigged]

maybe she has a problem with what she thinks the kilt entails...."no underpants"

That has come up in conversation several times about my wearing kilts to work (which I do when I'm off the clock -- for a social function or to drop off or pick up paperwork).

It's a bogus argument for three reasons:
1) The trousers I have to wear on the job show the outline of my male parts while the kilts totally obscure them.
2) There are more layers of material between my rear end and whatever I'm sitting on when I'm wearing a kilt than the two flimsy layers of material when I'm wearing trousers and underwear.
3) For me to be exposed in the workplace, either I or someone else would have to make a deliberate effort to raise the kilt -- with all the awful consequences that would follow.

When I worked for another company years ago, I attended a company picnic. One of the managers sat across from me wearing short pants. It was very obvious to me and anyone passing nearby that he wasn't wearing underwear under his shorts. I'm just glad he was concentrating on eating a hamburger instead of engaging me in conversation. I quickly moved to another table.

As garments go, the kilt is rather modest. Still, people have their preconceptions and prejudices that we have to deal with.

[Riverkilt]

Maybe all this is a sign of the success of the current kilt boom.

Sounds like the usual power and control to me...her fear of what her superiors might say for "allowing" it.

I put together a package of history, culture, current fashion, equal choices for both genders...got back a terse email that none of that mattered.

What turned the tide was that she feared (rightly) she might lose me, and I helped her land a new contract that she was incapable of doing herself simply by the luck of having common business friends with the prospect.

And, maybe reminding her of women's fight to wear pants in the office. Shouldn't men have the same choice women have? Bifurcated or unbifurcated?

If she's never seen you kilted, maybe a photo or three of you kilted.

And, as mentioned, attending company social functions kilted. Can't hurt to look for any upper management with Celtic names.

Remember, at her core she's afraid of losing her job and her paycheck for making a wrong decision. If you can find a way to show her the wrong decision is denial - in violation of your cultural heritage...its not good form to outlaw kilts and tartans today as the English did way back when.

Meantime, if you're not already sporting tartan neckties...

Would trews anger her?

Its an individual deal until we get the fear and insanity overcome.

Only advice is do your best to stay educational and don't go adversarial.

Ron

[GreenDragon]

do you still have the package of information on file?

[turpin]

Wear it to work anyway. If you are told that you cannae wear that, well then. Don't rock the boat, just take it off.

Quick! Run out and buy a pair of green boxers. Better yet, a green thing that says "Kiss me, I'm Irish".

[ckelly327]

I would definitely try to show her pictures today or if you can get on xmarks from work then show her the "Show us Your Pics" thread with the dressy pics or some of the nicer casual pictures. Let her know that kilts are not obscene or disruptive. They are a man's garment that help you stay in touch with your Celtic heritage. And don't worry about the other guys razzing you - the ones that I get the worst comments from are friends who don't wear kilts (I think they are just jealous).

[GreenDragon]

was NEVER worried about the other guys (at work or my friends at home) razzing me. that's just guys being guys.

[Mr. MacDougall]

Green Dragon won his battle. See the thread "Victory!" for details.

[Archangel]

Green Dragon won his battle. See the thread "Victory!" for details.

ayy, Quicksdraw, you've done it again.

[Mr. MacDougall]

ayy, Quicksdraw, you've done it again.

*blows smoke off the end of the barrell*

In my experience, Colonel, gunfights are won by the feller who takes the time to aim... but it don't hurt none to be quick out'a the gate.

[Archangel]

*blows smoke off the end of the barrell*

In my experience, Colonel, gunfights are won by the feller who takes the time to aim... but it don't hurt none to be quick out'a the gate.

ok, I'll bite. What's that line from?