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View Poll Results: Full time kiltie?
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American Full Timer w/ Scottish heritage
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American Part Timer w/ Scottish heritage
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American Full Timer w/o Scottish heritage
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American Part Timer w/o Scottish heritage
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Non-American Full Timer w/ Scottish heritage
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Non-American Part Timer w/ Scottish heritage
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Non-American Full Timer w/o Scottish heritage
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Non-American Part Timer w/o Scottish heritage
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27th April 07, 04:07 PM
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Dual American - Canadian prodigy (er... I mean progeny) of a Scots-American father and a Scots-Canadian mom.
I have a touch of Scots in me. Oh, and I'm a part-timer.
Last edited by Barclay; 27th April 07 at 04:21 PM.
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27th April 07, 04:13 PM
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I voted American part-timer with Scot heritage, but there's a caveat. I wear a kilt full time when not at work, bowling or any other activity where a kilt wouldn't work. So I'm part-time/full-time. I have Scot heritage, but its because my step-father adopted me and, according to the Hay clan officials I talked to at a Celtic festival, that makes me an out and out Hay.
If they outlaw guns, can we go back to using swords?
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27th April 07, 04:17 PM
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 Originally Posted by Verlyn
...but its because my step-father adopted me and, according to the Hay clan officials I talked to at a Celtic festival, that makes me an out and out Hay.
Adoption counts every bit as much as blood.
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27th April 07, 04:20 PM
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Adopted children are born of the heart. They have as much right to claim blood as anybody else.
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27th April 07, 09:22 PM
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American part-timer; maternal line - English, Irish, Scottish, Native American (tribe unknown to me, S.E. USA), German. Paternal line: German, Polish, Scottish, French, Rom -tho' technically not, once going outside the tribe, so to speak, you're apparently an outcast? Mom's side of the familyhas been stateside for a coupla centuries apparently, my dad's family, his mom's side, has only been here 106 years. Don't wear kilts to work 'cuz of the potential physical nature (some of the kids I work with are bigger than I am - I'm 6'2" and 200#) except on paperwork days, I'm kilted whenever I can be tho' with ONLY 3 UKs.
Frog
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I am Dutch form Scottish ancestory, and parttime kiltie.
Liberton is recorded in the eleventh century as part of a surname during the reign of Scottish king Malcolm III (1058 – 1093), although not proven the name Liberton is possibly from a Norman knight, and as a place from 1128 onwards. The early spellings Libertune and Libbertoun show the name to be Anglian hlida beretun, the bere or barley, tun or farm at the hlid or slope: There is another other Scottish Liberton is at Quothquhan in Lanarkshire
More romantically it was believed that Liberton derives from "Lepertown" - A House of Refuge for Lepers in Over, or Upper Liberton was assumed to exist after all the Berwick Guild Statutes about lepers and leper houses were passed in 1284. This case is supported by the evidence of old maps which shows the location of a place named "Spittaltown" (ie Hospitaltown) in the vicinity of one of the healing wells in the area. While an adjacent field is named "Clapperfield"- association being that lepers had to carry a clapper to warn of their approach (In this case however Clappertown was associated with milling) Another clue is a charter of tenancy of 1189 which identified the lands of Liberton and mentioning a maligned character called Johannes Leper. Poor Johannes or one of his ancestors were believed to suffer from the disease, and that the lands to which he had title came to be known by his name, connection can be made that the place names originally was Lepertown Both these arguments for the "leper" derivation are seriously weakened by the fact that the family name Liberton or Libbertoun, was used 139 years before any outbreak of the disease in Edinburgh and therefore before the Berwick Statues were passed
So the village was founded soon after the Norman invasion by the De Libertouns, and the Leper hospital founded by Guillaume de Libertoune. David de Libertoun is listed as an officer in the army of Mary Queen of Scots. David and Alland de Libertoun are mentioned in a document of 1311 while William de Libertoun was provost of Edinburgh in 1425 (possibly gave his name to Libbertons Wynd off the High Street)
One of the first recorded owners of the lands of Liberton, in the reign of Malcolm IV was one Baron Malbet or Malbeth or in 2 instances Macbeth. Another owner was a John Wigham who transferred the land to David Libbetoun- so the claim that Libertouns founded the village is another romanticism
Just to add to the melee- The heraldic emblem of the families of Liberton- the leopard's head- the archaic and heraldic form of the word leopard is "Libard" or Libbard perhaps add credibility that Libard Town gives birth to Liberton
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Southern-American part timer - English, German, Scottish, Ulster-Scot, Welsh, French, Italian, and Choctaw. In that order. Good old American Mongrel
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I'm a part time Kiltie,
moving up to full time when i have a few more kilts and
better clothes to go with them.
most of what i have now looks like poopy!
Jeans, T-Shirts and White Tube Socks....
i need better clothes.
TURNING THE ENEMY INTO HAIR, TEETH AND EYEBALLS SINCE 1984
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 Originally Posted by LK-13
I need better clothes.
Hear, here!
I've maintained for a long time that men in Western civiliazation have, by and large, forgotten how to dress with elegance and style. Of course, my own wardrobe is full of jeans and t's, so I guess I can't complain too loudly.
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I seriously doubt that I will ever be a full timer.
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