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    adding to gilmores post, when buddhism began in india the dzin is all that monks wore. Of course they wore it in a very practical way so as not to be revealing. In tibet the shirt and bottom skirt were added because of the cold climate. But in some other buddhist countries minks still just have the strip of cloth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    I was thinking the very same thing! Forgive my ignorance, but is there good fishing in that part of the world?
    There is very good fishing here in the Pacific Northwest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty View Post
    Cripes! I was looking at the gravely area as a place to stand and cast up to the cut bank. May bring out some curious trout.
    Nulty
    McNulty, I was thinking the same thing. -- trout in that stream

    I bet there are enough fly fishermen here to hijack this thread into one on fly fishing or fly tying.


    I know --

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    Jock Scot

    I was thinking the very same thing! Forgive my ignorance, but is there good fishing in that part of the world?

    I live in an area that is graced with three of the best trout fishing rivers/streams in the country, (The Roaring Fork, Colorado, and the Frying Pan) Gold Medal streams all. We've got Brown, Rainbow, Cutthroat, and in some places a hybrid called a Cut-bow. However, I'd love to come to your neck of the woods to wet my line. We would make a formidable team, raising the cry "Fish on" while kilted.
    Puffer's area has some spectacular water also and would love to go there too. Maybe during the summer. When school lets out in June I am a free-lance fly fishing guide out here and I'll toss an invitation out your way Jock. Any time you want to tangle with the native trout let me know and I'll take you to some of the better spots on our rivers.
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    The Frying Pan once more
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    "Nothing will come of nothing, dare mighty things." Shakespeare

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreakPower70 View Post
    adding to gilmores post, when buddhism began in india the dzin is all that monks wore. Of course they wore it in a very practical way so as not to be revealing. In tibet the shirt and bottom skirt were added because of the cold climate. But in some other buddhist countries minks still just have the strip of cloth.
    Originally in India the monks wore two robes, both made of cloth taken from bodies in charnel grounds, sewn into patchwork rectangles that were said to resemble a map of rice paddies, and then dyed, some say with saffron, other say with tumeric.

    The lower, skirt-like robe came to be known as a shang-tab in Tibet, and the the upper rectangular one is called the cho gu, or dharma robe. The latter is some shade of yellow and is worn only at formal teachings and some ceremonies.

    The dzin is not necessarily a monk's robe, since some lay yogis (naljor) called ngagpas also wear it. The yellow chu gu, when it is worn, is worn over the dzin. In fact it is said that the purpose of wearing the dzin at such times is to protect the cho gu from the body's uncleanliness. There is a second patchwork rectangular yellow robe called a nang chu that is used only by fully ordained monks at twice-monthly ceremonies. For much of the ceremony it is folded into a narrow strip and and carried over the left shoulder, exactly as a Scottish day plaid is; however, the nang cho is worn over the cho gu, which is itself worn over the dzin, which is worn over the shirt, or tongag, which is worn over a undershirt-like thing called a ngulen. Even though it rests on 4 layers of cloth, 2 of which are robes loosely wrapped around the left shoulder and torso, the cho gu almost never falls of. Therefore, I suspect that if a day plaid was folded into a narrow width that did not extend beyond the shoulder, it would be less cumbersome, and that its own weight would hold it in place.

    In India the monks carried a piece of cloth to sit on. It was square with two points at each of the 4 corners, "the fangs of death." It was this that the monks fashioned into a shirt, the tongag, after they came to the colder climates of Tibet.
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    McNulty.

    Thank you so much for your kind invitation and you never know I may take you up on that.Likewise if ever you are this way of the world, perhaps we could arrange something? How do you get on with a 15ft fly rod?I would not recommend fishing here in the kilt, the midgies would eat you alive! Great pictures by the way, my casting wrist was beginning to twitch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMurdo View Post
    I may try something like this again if my Inverness Cape was missing and all I had was a tartan blanket.
    I sometimes combine my cape, as tradition, with a tweed day plaid (neither worsted tartan nor pleats but stout, lanolin "oily" heavyweight tweed). I reserve my worsted tartan full and half belted plaids for "special occasions". Since I have a 150cm square of Noble spun wool government 1A (as was) looking for a use I might one day fashion it into a heavier and more functional "fly plaid" for something in-between.

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    Glen,

    My compliments on trying the day plaid.

    My wife likes the look and thinks it would be a good reason for me to use the matching 2' X 5' 16oz material I ordered with my tank back in 2005. Her line of thinking, is the look would fit well when attending a garden party where a tweed jacket is more appropriate than an Argyle or PC. Since we live on the coast here in the PNW, it can be cool even during the Summer, so the extra warmth would not be a consideration. She makes a good argument for trying the look (I can always hang the plaid on the back of a chair if it becomes cumbersome.) Of course if I wear the plaid for her, she'll wear something for me. Now,...where did she put those lovely mini skirts?
    [I][B]Nearly all men can stand adversity. If you really want to test a man’s character,
    Give him power.[/B][/I] - [I]Abraham Lincoln[/I]

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