Let The Buyer Beware

**MacWage** · 7th September 07, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. MacDougall

Well, let's see... that would be Jerry of Stillwater, Matt of the Scottish Tartans Museum, Rocky of USA Kilts, Barb of Barbara Trewksbury Kilts, Steve of Freedom Kilts... at least, those are the ones I think of off the top of my head.

Those are the main ones.
I was sure I would forget someone.
Sorry for the vagueness. I didn't realize the post requested specificity. I didn't want to leave someone out, like Robert of R-Kilts. Pete of Canadian Casual kilts, Rab Gordon in Inverness-sgians, and some of our other friends.

I have PERSONALLY dealt with Steve Ashton/Wizard of BC (Freedom Kilts in British Columbia), Rocky (USA Kilts), Pete (Canadian Casual), MAC (Matt) Newsome (Scottish Tartan Museum- STM), and Barb.
And for accessories: Steve/Cavscout (Oconee Leather), Turpin (Thorfinn Sporrans), and Matt Newsome (STM).

All have been pleasant to deal with and had NO problems with any of them.

**Freedomlover** · 7th September 07, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by benkilt

I ordered a 'deluxe, three strapped, 8 yard, heavyweight wool' kilt from a shop on E Bay, and received a 5 yard, two strapped, somethingweight, polyviscose kilt instead, fortunately I'd paid what was a fair price for the thing I received, so was disappointed rather than robbed, but that was down to my judgement rather than the vendor. When I told the vendor about the discrepancy, they just said that the advert they ran was the one they were given by their suppier, and that they personally wouldn't know the difference anyway. The ability to count up to 3 would have sufficed, surely?

That is fraud. They know it and so should you. As an eBay seller for ten years I'm here to tell you that eBay will boot them in a flash. Persue it. You were cheated. That doesn't work.

**slohairt** · 7th September 07, 09:43 PM

Most unfortunate. I don't know the rules of Ebay (I tend to keep away from it) but it certainly sound fraudulent.

**Beertigger** · 8th September 07, 02:36 AM

The folks at Celtic Croft and Kiltrental.com should be added to the list of gud'uns.

**Archangel** · 8th September 07, 06:33 PM

For Benkilt, and others.

I had the unfortunate experience in the past as a seller so you are actually in a great position if you used credit card through paypal.

I sold an item, actually I sold tons but only one issue. The guy said he never ordered the product, go figure? I had no defense, emails were through ebay and they only are up for a few months and not archived. He got his money back, I had to pay a service charge, I'm missing the item (there was no discussion allowed on whether he got it or not).

Don't get too upset, I didn't lose much and I can prepare my defenses for more expensive items.

My point is that, if you used credit card and paypal, you are in a very good position. You have about 3 months to charge back the seller.

**wscottmac** · 11th September 07, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by MacHenderson

What we need is a nice, big list of all the vendors, along with people's general opinions on them. Does anyone think this is a good idea? If so, I'd be willing to organize a list.

MacHenderson - I think that's a great idea! I'm always left searching around 6 or 7 sites for something I need. What we need is: Vendor name/website/phone number/address/what folks have ordered from them - then, some sort of rating scale on price/quickness/quality/customer service/etc. (like a 1-5 stars rating, mebbe?)

I'll certainly contribute.

We'll need a way to allow people to fill out a form (mebbe w/ dropdown menus) to input their info, then have this uploaded to a list. Mebbe we need an Admin to help with this....

GREAT idea...

**James MacMillan** · 11th September 07, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Livingston

We do have help for you with your kilt addition in our 12 step program:

Step 1. Buy kilts.
Step 2. Buy Hose.
Step 3. Buy flashes.
Step 4. Buy sporrans.
Step 5. Buy kilt pins.
Step 6. Buy fly plaids.
Step 7. Buy jackets.
Step 8. Buy sgian dubhs.
Step 9. Buy shoes.
Step 10. Learn to make kilts.
Step 11. Learn to make everything else above.
Step 12. Hang out on X-Marks.

Repeat as necessary and have a good time with friends and family.

I know that this is supposed to be a twelve step program (for some obscure reason) but I had bad hicoughs at number 10 and 11.

I suggest:

Step 10. Have a kilt (or kilts) custom made for you.
Step 11. Learn who the best suppliers of all the above are.