Historic Painting Thread

[Morris at Heathfield]

Close. I have that painting in a book. It's called "For Better or Worse - Rob Roy and the Baillie", painted by John Watson Nicol in 1886.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Close. I have that painting in a book. It's called "For Better or Worse - Rob Roy and the Baillie", painted by John Watson Nicol in 1886.

Thanks for setting me straight! What's the book, and (if you know) where is the original?

[Morris at Heathfield]

Thanks for setting me straight! What's the book, and (if you know) where is the original?

The book is The Complete Book of Tartan. Its accuracy is a bit spotty in places, but it has some nice pictures. I'll have to scan and upload some of them when I get the time.

The painting of Rob Roy is part of the Bridgeman Art Library. The original is owned by the Sheffield Galleries & Museums Trust, and is apparently housed in the Graves Gallery:

Surrey Street
Sheffield
South Yorkshire
S1 1XZ

[Nick the DSM]

Here are a few more… unfortunately I don’t know much about them.


Best,

Robert

I really like this pic. Especially the dogs. Also the drones on his right shoulder a la Rufus Harley, instead of the left.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

I love that picture of Patrick Grant. Thanks for posting it. Notice he is wearing both plaid and sporran with his trews, and that his plaid and trews are in two different tartans (neither are Grant tartans). His plaid is the Prince Charles Edward Stewart tartan, an early form of the Royal Stewart, and the one used as the basis for the Carolina tartan.

[Rollo]

Thanks Matt for these interesting precisions !

[cavscout]

Here's a link to a book with some great photos from the French and Indian war of Scottish Soldiers

http://books.google.com/books?id=ojN...page&q=&f=true

[cavscout]

These by Griffing have to be included here:

War Dance


Warriors


Jacobite


One of Their Own


Major Grants Piper


Long Way From Home


The Intimidators

[Woodsheal]

The Griffing prints are nice, but are modern renditions of the artist's concept of period dress. Therefore, not nearly as valuable as actual period images for research purposes.
His painting entitled "The Jacobite" for example: it shows a highlander with an "upper crust" clansman's weapons - fine fowling piece and basket-hilt sword - standing there in nothing more than shirtsleeves and a belted plaid. The poorest of the poor might appear in such limited dress, but certainly not a highland gent who could afford such weaponry. In other words, this painting is highly inaccurate, and gives a false impression of actual period dress.
A thread like this should be limited to truely "historic" images from the period, not modern interpretations. N. C. Wyeth illustrations from "Kidnapped" would be another example of gorgeous - but not necessarily historic - renderings. Likewise all of those famous - but highly suspect - McIan prints....

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

The Griffing prints are nice, but are modern renditions of the artist's concept of period dress. Therefore, not nearly as valuable as actual period images for research purposes.
His painting entitled "The Jacobite" for example: it shows a highlander with an "upper crust" clansman's weapons - fine fowling piece and basket-hilt sword - standing there in nothing more than shirtsleeves and a belted plaid. The poorest of the poor might appear in such limited dress, but certainly not a highland gent who could afford such weaponry. In other words, this painting is highly inaccurate, and gives a false impression of actual period dress.
A thread like this should be limited to truely "historic" images from the period, not modern interpretations. N. C. Wyeth illustrations from "Kidnapped" would be another example of gorgeous - but not necessarily historic - renderings. Likewise all of those famous - but highly suspect - McIan prints....

I know where you are coming from, but frankly I think there is a great deal to be learned from the discussions that you and others have regarding the inaccuracies of some of the modern painting. These exchanges often bring out tidbits of knowledge that might otherwise be by-passed in the assumption that something is self-evident in an historically accurate painting.

Besides, they are great eye candy!